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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Tonights Update - The Reference Lenco Pt XXX - Waiting for buses...

    This hobby is great but also frustrating. It's great that it enables endless experimentation and gives great joy when something works out but it's frustrating whilst having to wait for the bits to come through the post! So today just like waiting for a bus my Ikea chopping boards arrive one day early and then 3 hours later the new JICO stylus arrives for JAPAN, see I told you it would be a close call between which arrived first. I've decided to play arround with the chopping boards first to see if they do indeed provide any improvements. Well it's early doors but I do indeed think that they are beginning to drag out more micro detail from the vinyl that I'm listening to. I started with removing the Sorbothane footers and semi rigid feet combo that I'd been using for the last few months and just coupled the birch ply feet on the plinth directly to the Bamboo and I instantly noticed a loss in quality so it looks like that particular combination is indeed a positive tweak for the Lenco. I next decided to just try the semi rigid rubber feet coupled onto the Bamboo boards and I noticed an immediate improvement in how vivid and vibrant the soundstage sounded. I'm beginning to wonder if the Sorbothane may be dampening down some of the vitality to this deck. The deck is not lacking in speed and transient attack but I'm beginning to think that it's the poor old M55E which is the weak link in chain. It just seems to be lacking something that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe all this negative sentiment will be blown away with the new JICO neoSAS stylus . So, initially the chopping boards seem to be working but I need more time to really make a proper assessment and I also need to see if the Sorbothane footers add or take away anything from the deck. Here's a quick picture of the deck sitting on the chopping boards.

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    Certainly food for thought doing all this experimentation. As always...................................
    Looking good Andy, I use sorbathane pods under a piece of compact laminate which then has my VPI standing on it. Works a treat especially as the VPI is high mass. I am lucky as VPI also add very good feet with cones and bearings to their Scout TT.
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    Looking good Andy . Let's see what the Jico SAS brings to the show .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    good work there mate,
    i noticed a difference in detail when i installed a panzerholz tonearm board for the alphason,have you tried this stuff?
    not tried panzerholz but used ebony on my 1210 arm board to very good effect.mit may be worth while getting something made for the lenco, could be my next move. Thanks for the suggestions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Looking good Andy, I use sorbathane pods under a piece of compact laminate which then has my VPI standing on it. Works a treat especially as the VPI is high mass. I am lucky as VPI also add very good feet with cones and bearings to their Scout TT.
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    thanks Jim, lovely deck. VPI look like they lower the centre of gravity of the platter onto the four coned feet, clever!!

    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Looking good Andy . Let's see what the Jico SAS brings to the show .
    well I might get a little play tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    not tried panzerholz but used ebony on my 1210 arm board to very good effect.mit may be worth while getting something made for the lenco, could be my next move. Thanks for the suggestions.



    thanks Jim, lovely deck. VPI look like they lower the centre of gravity of the platter onto the four coned feet, clever!!



    well I might get a little play tonight.
    Thanks Andy, the VPI Scout also has a massive steel plate on the bottom of the plinth - about 3mm thick. This helps bring down centre of gravity and adds more mass.

    Hope you enjoy the JICO SAS
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Morning gents , hope all is well

    Yes I'm looking forward to Andys adventures with the Jico SAS too James
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Morning gents , hope all is well

    Yes I'm looking forward to Andys adventures with the Jico SAS too James
    Think it will be a nice surprise Brian.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

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    Well , I've heard the jump in these cartridges for myself James , so I'm pretty sure it's fair to assume that Andys experience will be the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    not tried panzerholz but used ebony on my 1210 arm board to very good effect.mit may be worth while getting something made for the lenco, could be my next move. Thanks for the suggestions.
    imo its the level up from ebony,worth a go for sure
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    Adventure started with the JICO neoSAS stylus fitted and tracking at 1.25g. Only one track in and noticed less mush to the soundstage and a narrowing of the soundstage very centrally focused maybe not as wide as the cheaper £40 JICO stylus. Surface noise is definitely lower. Now I must stop 'cos I'm off to the pub again to play a little pool and do some business with my mates. Probably get more time with this tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Adventure started with the JICO neoSAS stylus fitted and tracking at 1.25g. Only one track in and noticed less mush to the soundstage and a narrowing of the soundstage very centrally focused maybe not as wide as the cheaper £40 JICO stylus. Surface noise is definitely lower. Now I must stop 'cos I'm off to the pub again to play a little pool and do some business with my mates. Probably get more time with this tomorrow.
    I track mine at 1.5g Which seems to get the best out of it.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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