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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG View Post
    I understand but am intrigued as to what sensitive personal data you are sharing with theartofsound.net.... a HiFi discussion forum. You can browse Amazon and not need the connection to be encrypted but as soon as you log in then the connection is encrypted, naturally as your CC details, full name and address are available, but a HiFi forum? There are articles saying the opposite as well, encrypting every connection is not realistic and essentially unnecessary.


    that was my thoughts as well, but thought I would leave it to experts, of which I aint one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    As for the techy/computer geekery Sam was referring to, it's all Double-Dutch to me, so I've no idea what he is getting at.

    Marco.
    Me neither. I copy and pasted it...

    But reading the english, it looks as though the certificate is one used by Parallels Panel - if you google it, its a webhosting company, probably what this is hosted by. Self-signed implies that you can validate it yourself without it being on some kind of registered and approved database. The english of the code in the error looks as though it goes off to check the certificate against a database and it's throwing up an error because it can't find it on there.

    Sounds like just the small details of web hosting to me, just a little tidying to do if Nick feels it's necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
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    that was my thoughts as well, but thought I would leave it to experts, of which I aint one
    Haha - The internet is so full of contradictory advice from equally qualified experts that we can now pick and choose the advice according to what we already do and what we already think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Advent View Post
    Who says I am? I'm not saying I am. My original post says that I found out by accident - normally I type two letters of the url and autocomplete in my browser brings up artofsound.net in plain old http.

    This one time I used https accidentally - it was suggested for me but not as per the usual autocomplete - and it comes up with this. So I came here to let people know, community and all that.

    But all the same in general, even if it is unnecessary in some cases, it is generally better practice to get into the habbit of using https so that when it IS worthwhile you do it out of habbit and take not when a site is not secure - e.g. you might pass financial details over PM on here whilst in some dodgy internet cafe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Advent View Post
    But reading the english, it looks as though the certificate is one used by Parallels Panel - if you google it, its a webhosting company, probably what this is hosted by.
    Except that I've never heard of Parallels Panel, and they are certainly not the site's hosts, unless they're part of a sister company or something.

    Sounds like just the small details of web hosting to me, just a little tidying to do if Nick feels it's necessary.
    Well, if that's the case it will most certainly be sorted out. Anyway, thanks for alerting us to this

    Marco.
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    Default Security certificate, using https: - seems to be invalid and old.

    Thanks for raising this - to be honest the forum was never configured for HTTPS access, and we've never tested it. Parallels Plesk is a system that runs on the server and allows people like me to configure various backend bits without having to worry about getting too handy with code etc. It handles certificate storage for secure sites running Plesk.

    The certificate (self signed) needs to be regenerated at some point for my own benefit but it shouldn't affect the site itself - I need to make sure that the server isn't configured to announce itself as an allowing HTTPS so that 'HTTPS Anywhere' and the like doesn't try and establish a secure connection.

    Not sure how long that'll take so bear with me...
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    Nice one, Nick. Thanks for looking into this. I look forward to seeing what the outcome is

    Marco.
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    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    I have disabled SSL / HTTPS. Connections to The Art of Sound should always be via http://theartofsound.net - it would be useful if the original poster could confirm that their connections no longer default to trying for a secure connection. Attempting to connect directly to https://theartofsound.net will no longer be accepted. I'll have a look this evening and see if I can set up a redirect to send https:// connections back to our usual http:// site, for neatness's sake.
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    That would be interesting if I knew what it meant, or how it impacts upon/changes what Sam was getting at in his opening post...

    Marco.
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    "Your validity or worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas". - Pharos (on AoS)

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    Comes up refused to connect Nick as it should.
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