Regarding this forum

[Marco]

ITYM 'no longer almost immediately derailed'!

Lol... Ta. I meant to put 'now' before the 'no'. Now edited!

Marco.

[sq225917]

Marco, I decree that you can now delete this thread, it has served its purpose. Just think on the handful of kb storage space you can save on your server ;-)

[Marco]

My comment about it being social is similar to Macca's comment. I know there are technical, helpful people here (hello Firebottle)...

Indeed, and also 'hello' Jez (Arkless), AnthonyTD, Lurcher (Nick), to name be a few...

...but that isn't immediately obvious. Unlike say, diyAudio or Vinyl Engine.

Yup, I know where you're coming from - and that's intentional. The last thing I'd want is for AoS to be portrayed as a bland, humourless 'database' for technophiles or 'solder monkeys', so the social vibe here is an integral part of the forum, in terms of it being first and foremost a community of like-minded people, sharing similar goals, although we all have our different ways of achieving them.

diyAudio is an excellent forum, and does what it 'says on the tin' nicely. However, I don't really rate VE, as for me it represents precisely what I've referred to above and I find it overly, bordering on obsessively, moderated. In short, it completely lacks 'soul', which is something that I'd like to think runs deeply through AoS.

And as for the pfm comment, when did it change? I am talking about maybe a month ago. I don't know what it was like in the past.
I'm not complaining about any of the fora, just giving my perceptions. I use all of them as needed.

I know you weren't complaining, and constructive feedback is always welcomed. I was simply addressing some of your observations and providing some insight of my own.

In terms of pfm, if only a month ago you felt that there were still circular arguments taking place, then I haven't seen any of those. I'm talking more about 12 months ago and before, where it was rife. I read the forum regularly and can see massive improvements in that respect since then, and not before time either, as the irritants and circular argument fetishists were getting away with murder and dragging the whole place down.

On a side note, I was saddened to hear of the recent passing of Markus Sauer, one of the mods there, from cancer. He was a good guy and an integral part of pfm. Life sucks sometimes.

Marco.

[Marco]

Marco, I decree that you can now delete this thread, it has served its purpose. Just think on the handful of kb storage space you can save on your server ;-)

Save bandwidth at all costs!

Marco.

[Audio Advent]

And to be honest to search this place is a real nightmare...

I tend to use google for searching forums as forum search functions aren't particularly as good, especially some forum software where you can't seem to search for phrases, only getting results for each individual word in any context!

Maybe people don't know this google search method? You use the "site" function and a search looks like this:

Apples and pairs site:theartofsound.net

Note that there's no space between "site", ":" or the domain name.

That will search any page in the artofsound.net domain (including any subdomains, though for theartofsound.net there is only the "www" subdomain) for the words "apples", "and", and "pairs" .

Because it's Google, you can then use other boolean terms and characters. So to search for the whole phrase "Apple and Pairs" on AOS, you type:

"Apple and Pairs" site:theartofsound.net

or you want "apple" and "pairs" on the same page you can use:

apple NEAR pairs site:theartofsound.net

or

apple AND pairs site:theartofsound.net

etc etc ect

(sorry if this is teaching you to suck eggs with google!).

So there should never really be any problem searching any website or forum, just use google instead of the forum's own search facilities.

[Audio Advent]

I dont understand the point but fair enough
Nice day and chat about ...ahmm..not sure what

If searching the forum is the reason for wanting the rep points, then hopefully you've continued reading the thread and my last post is helpful?

You don't know what you're going to miss if you don't stick around to find out !

[Audio Advent]

you can clearly see on 1st post how big the reputation is actually much better and more clear than reading 3 pages of replies ...

Your example is from a specific type of forum that seems dedicated to solving technical problems for people - I've been on those type of forums before and actually the rep points people get are not an indicator of the quality of their replies! Often the people with high rep counts are geeks with no life who live on the forum simply to gain rep points and try to be the very first to jump on to the most simple of questions.

You also find that they can be rude and very unhelpful to people who have more complicated problems to solve or are looking for alternative solutions to the usual ones - they often don't listen and become arrogant (a mark of the type of person looking for rep points ...).

The most helpful person for your particular question could be someone with the exact specific knowledge you need but who doesn't often get involved in all the trival simple things - how will their reputation points be awarded?

All you do is end up rewarding people who help the most often but it's no real indicator of the quality of their help or depth of their knowledge in particular areas.

And then the thanking bit I find a social pain in the arse on forums - do you have to thank people for every reply? Or only when the reply is of an arbitrary quality of helpfulness? Then you find people just thanking their friends for agreeing with them when they weren't even involved in the discussion.

Pointless IMHO and creates completely the wrong vibe; a cold, detached, impersonal vibe.

[rikardo1979]

I tend to use google for searching forums as forum search functions aren't particularly as good, especially some forum software where you can't seem to search for phrases, only getting results for each individual word in any context!

Maybe people don't know this google search method? You use the "site" function and a search looks like this:

Apples and pairs site:theartofsound.net

Note that there's no space between "site", ":" or the domain name.

That will search any page in the artofsound.net domain (including any subdomains, though for theartofsound.net there is only the "www" subdomain) for the words "apples", "and", and "pairs" .

Because it's Google, you can then use other boolean terms and characters. So to search for the whole phrase "Apple and Pairs" on AOS, you type:

"Apple and Pairs" site:theartofsound.net

or you want "apple" and "pairs" on the same page you can use:

apple NEAR pairs site:theartofsound.net

or

apple AND pairs site:theartofsound.net

etc etc ect

(sorry if this is teaching you to suck eggs with google!).

So there should never really be any problem searching any website or forum, just use google instead of the forum's own search facilities.

thank you for this short google search lesson maybe it going to help some others but for me this is nothing new



This was done for fun for me back in 2012 as I have learned nothing new(almost)

[rikardo1979]

Your example is from a specific type of forum that seems dedicated to solving technical problems for people - I've been on those type of forums before and actually the rep points people get are not an indicator of the quality of their replies! Often the people with high rep counts are geeks with no life who live on the forum simply to gain rep points and try to be the very first to jump on to the most simple of questions.

You also find that they can be rude and very unhelpful to people who have more complicated problems to solve or are looking for alternative solutions to the usual ones - they often don't listen and become arrogant (a mark of the type of person looking for rep points ...).

The most helpful person for your particular question could be someone with the exact specific knowledge you need but who doesn't often get involved in all the trival simple things - how will their reputation points be awarded?

All you do is end up rewarding people who help the most often but it's no real indicator of the quality of their help or depth of their knowledge in particular areas.

And then the thanking bit I find a social pain in the arse on forums - do you have to thank people for every reply? Or only when the reply is of an arbitrary quality of helpfulness? Then you find people just thanking their friends for agreeing with them when they weren't even involved in the discussion.

Pointless IMHO and creates completely the wrong vibe; a cold, detached, impersonal vibe.

yet again nothing new to me as I was moderating that place for about 2 years where is now +800k users so that was a hell of the task some days

[jandl100]

I tend to use google for searching forums as forum search functions aren't particularly as good, especially some forum software where you can't seem to search for phrases, only getting results for each individual word in any context!

Maybe people don't know this google search method? You use the "site" function and a search looks like this:

Apples and pairs site:theartofsound.net

Note that there's no space between "site", ":" or the domain name.

That will search any page in the artofsound.net domain (including any subdomains, though for theartofsound.net there is only the "www" subdomain) for the words "apples", "and", and "pairs" .

Because it's Google, you can then use other boolean terms and characters. So to search for the whole phrase "Apple and Pairs" on AOS, you type:

"Apple and Pairs" site:theartofsound.net

or you want "apple" and "pairs" on the same page you can use:

apple NEAR pairs site:theartofsound.net

or

apple AND pairs site:theartofsound.net

etc etc ect

(sorry if this is teaching you to suck eggs with google!).

So there should never really be any problem searching any website or forum, just use google instead of the forum's own search facilities.

Wow - no - amazing. I really didn't know that!