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    I got the inspiration for this idea from reading the Klotz / MS Audio thread. I'd like to start a list of products & manufacturers that produce or have designed fantastic products at amazingly good value for money. So here's my nominations


    AMPLIFIERS


    £100 - £500

    * Croft Mircobasic Preamplifier - The only amp where you get a MM phonostage probably worth more than the amp!! Fantastic value if you can get 2nd hand.

    CABLES

    INTERCONNECTS

    <£100

    * Belden 19364 shielded cable - Fantastic no nonsense cable that simply does the job done.
    * Yannis Tome (www.backbeat.co.uk) - An amazing guy who produces amazing cables. His tonearm cable displaced a Nordost cable at 4 times the cost.
    * Mark Grant G1000HD - Starts at £50 and highly recommended over many forums, crops up regular on 2nd hand market for less cash. An AOS favourite.
    * Flasback's Premiere range - Prices start at £43 per meter and a few AOSer's seem to like these with Quad/Naim gear.
    * Pure AV (White version) - Sold at pound shops! Screened cables, pure copper, gold plated RCA's. Less than £10 would cost considerably more to better.
    * The Klotz MC5000 / MS Audio RCA IC's - Two products when combines produces an excellent set of IC's. Very good SPPV.


    CARTRDIGES (MC)

    £100 TO £500

    * Denon 103 (+Variants) - Widely recognised all over the world as an MC that punches well above its weight. Very tweekable and massive Internet following.

    DACs

    £100 - £500

    * Bushmaster II / Caiman II DAC - Beresford Audio, these come up quite regular and offer excellect SPPV, even better with SFW upgrades and battery powered PSU.
    * IQ-Audio DAC - Nominated by Marco who says, "SPPV doesn't really get much better than with that!"
    * The Raspberry Pi - Very well respected piece of kit used by many AOSer's.

    HEAD-AMPS

    <£100

    * Little Bear T20 - A headamp, goldplated RCA's, PSU, tightly matched resistors&caps (within 5%), from China £20!! Would probably cost £75-100 from UK.

    PHONOSTAGE

    * Arkless Electronics 640P - Widely sort phonostage starting at £185. Rarely crops up and widely recognised as being extremely good SPPV.

    SPEAKERS

    * RFC Extrinsic Tannoy Cross Overs - Fantastic Tannoy speaker designs and Reference grade XO's are simply superb.

    STREAMING DEVICES

    <£100

    * Chromecast - A few AOSers have commented on the quality of this device, it's portability and its incredibly low price.

    TONEARMS

    <£500

    * Jelco SA-750D - Another tonearm that is widely seen across a multiude of forums as good value for money. Prices vary between £400 - 475 brand new.


    TURNTABLE ADD-ONS

    <£100

    * Ebony Armboards - Magna Audio AKA Speedy Steve! His ebony armboard was a very cheap and effective upgrade for my 1210.
    * The Analog Audio Crystal Mat - Harking back to the 70's when the big Jap TT's had glass platter mats, for me this is the best 1210 platter mat available.
    Last edited by REXTON; 15-03-2016 at 20:06.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Mega Modded) DAC Caiman SEG+Anker PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analouge Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MCOrtofon Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 MatTeunto GunMetal Bearing401 PlinthMoldovan Arm SME 3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUPheonix PSU+Tachomter MCAg Meister SPU/DECCA Maroon CABLESArm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker3mm2Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage4Box Paradise


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    Good idea for a thread, Andy. I'll move it into Blank Canvas, which is a more relevant place for it to live, considering that the products concerned have various different applications, and also it'll get more traffic there

    I won't sticky the thread right away, however. I'll wait until more products have been added and/or it has received some more replies.

    To your list I would also add:

    The Raspberry Pi/IQ-Audio DAC. SPPV doesn't really get much better than with that! Also the Jelco SA-750D tonearm, with Shuggie collar. Anything from Jez or Firebottle. Oh, and of course, not forgetting a judiciously modified Technics SL-1200!

    So folks, what else should be on this list?

    Marco.
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    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    I'll do a little more work on this later and add seperate sections. I also think that the Caiman mk II + upgrades should be added alongside the Anker PSU.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Mega Modded) DAC Caiman SEG+Anker PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analouge Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MCOrtofon Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 MatTeunto GunMetal Bearing401 PlinthMoldovan Arm SME 3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUPheonix PSU+Tachomter MCAg Meister SPU/DECCA Maroon CABLESArm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker3mm2Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage4Box Paradise


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    Yeah, defo anything Beresford. I'll leave it with you

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    "Your validity or worth are not defined or determined by the views of others with their own superimposed agendas". - Pharos (on AoS)

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU/Williams Audio NAS linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    I think the Chromecast Audio is fine as well, especially as mine cost me £14 each if your wireless network is clean and you wish to stream network music files (currently), it's great and 'sounds' far better than you'd imagine by the price and visuals. Apparently VLC media player may support (Chrome)casting locally held music files too before too long and I await that with keen interest.

    By the way, the little P20 passive preamp I make ought to be included if nothing else from the range, as it's 'only' £100 and doesn't 'sound' any different from the bigger more versatile models...
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    Got that Chromecast thing too not tried it via the main system yet.

    No TIDAL support though you can use BubbleUPnp. However, that does not support TIDAL phone buffered tracks.

    Would also be better if it worked in the car. It will if you have an in-car router. I might set that up as I am a bit fed up with low latency Bluetooth, which skips when the phone is challenged for CPU by something else.

    So cheap though for what it can do. Mad really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I got the inspiration for this idea from reading the Klotz / MS Audio thread. I'd like to start a list of products & manufacturers that produce or have designed fantastic products at amazingly good value for money. So here's my nominations


    AMPLIFIERS


    * Croft Mircobasic Preamplifier - The only amp where you get a MM phonostage probably worth more than the amp!! Fantastic value if you can get 2nd hand.

    CABLES

    * Yannis Tome (www.backbeat.co.uk) - An amazing guy who produces amazing cables. His tonearm cable displaced a Nordost cable at 4 times the cost.
    * The Klotz MC5000 / MS Audio RCA IC's - Two products when combines produces an excellent set of IC's. Very good SPPV.

    DACs

    * Bushmaster II / Caiman II DAC - Beresford Audio, these come up quite regular and offer excellect SPPV, even better with SFW upgrades and battery powered PSU.

    SPEAKERS

    * RFC Extrinsic Tannoy Cross Overs - Fantastic Tannoy speaker designs and Reference grade XO's are simply superb.

    TURNTABLE ADD-ONS


    * Ebony Armboards - Magna Audio AKA Speedy Steve! His ebony armboard was a very cheap and effective upgrade for my 1210.
    * The Analog Audio Crystal Mat - Harking back to the 70's when the big Jap TT's had glass platter mats, for me this is the best 1210 platter mat available.



    I'd like this idea to work and ultimately this thread/sticky can be seen as a reference for other AOSer's who don't want to spend stupid amounts of money on Foo.
    Excellent and very useful Andy

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    Updates and added a few more suggestions.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Mega Modded) DAC Caiman SEG+Anker PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analouge Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MCOrtofon Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 MatTeunto GunMetal Bearing401 PlinthMoldovan Arm SME 3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUPheonix PSU+Tachomter MCAg Meister SPU/DECCA Maroon CABLESArm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker3mm2Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage4Box Paradise


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    You need to add Mark Grant to the cables section as well.
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    +1 for the Chromecast audio. Cheap simple streaming for the price of a takeaway. I have two of them going in different systems in the house.

    I'd also go along with the Croft Micro basic preamplifier too.
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