Ortofon 2m black or Cadenza black

**British high fidelity** · 20-01-2016, 12:56

Hi guys I've finally decide to go for a new cartridge I was recommended by AoS members awhile ago the nagaoka mp300 but in all honesty I am a fan of ortofon and would like to stick with this manufacturer, so I need help with choosing an ortofon black,

Arm is SME series iii
And deck is Thorens TD125 MKII

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated

Deano

**RobbieGong** · 20-01-2016, 13:05

Originally Posted by British high fidelity

Hi guys I've finally decide to go for a new cartridge I was recommended by AoS members awhile ago the nagaoka mp300 but in all honesty I am a fan of ortofon and would like to stick with this manufacturer, so I need help with choosing an ortofon black,

Arm is SME series iii
And deck is Thorens TD125 MKII

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated

Deano

The 2M at around £450 is lots less than the £1750 (can be had cheaper) the Cadenza tends to go for so depends on how much you have and your system. As a proud 2M Black owner I can say it is a fantastic cart IME. I and others have found it a right pain / fussy to set up / find it's 'right' spot but when you do it is fab in an more 'accurate' and 'honest' sense which I love rather than the romantic, fruity, colored or overtly ballsy flavour some favour. As such if I had the money the Cadenza Black is the only other cart at the mo that I would have my eye on, simply because I believe it gives more of the same great things I love about the 2M Black, sharing the same quality Shibata stylus profile. Over to you

**British high fidelity** · 20-01-2016, 13:14

Thanks brother I have been keen on the blacks for sometime and are very interested in the 2m black, BUT, I don't want to hastily buy the 2m black and then want an upgrade 6 months down the line, my thinking is if I wait and go for the Cadenza black (funds pending) then I'm basically set for the next 10years, and no need to upgrade 😀

**Wakefield Turntables** · 20-01-2016, 13:15

Cadenza black - But then again I'm biased. Best cart I ever heard, extremely analytical and very detailed, just make sure that's the sound you want.

**RobbieGong** · 20-01-2016, 13:21

Originally Posted by British high fidelity

Thanks brother I have been keen on the blacks for sometime and are very interested in the 2m black, BUT, I don't want to hastily buy the 2m black and then want an upgrade 6 months down the line, my thinking is if I wait and go for the Cadenza black (funds pending) then I'm basically set for the next 10years, and no need to upgrade ��

Good thinking Deano, particularly if you believe you'll be able to attain the funds and like the Ortofon's which you do. I've not had or Cadenza Black but all I've read makes me want one one day, especially after my experience with it's younger sibling the 2M Black - All the best either way.

**NRG** · 20-01-2016, 13:37

Having used a KontraB on a SME s3 in the past I would say you are not going to realise anywhere near the full potential of the Candenza Black. IMHO you will be wasting your money, I feel you would be better off with the 2M and paying attention to the loading and setup. You do not mention what phono stage you have, that also may have a limiting affect as well.

**CageyH** · 20-01-2016, 13:38

How about a quintet black?

**British high fidelity** · 20-01-2016, 13:41

Phono is choice of three actually I have as below

Rotel RQ970bx
Tricorn Dino
Graham Slee

Tricord is new just bought of a friend and is mk2 version

Hope this helps with with advice

**British high fidelity** · 20-01-2016, 13:44

Yes sorry I forgot to put the quintet in the equation how's the quintet with series 3

**CageyH** · 20-01-2016, 13:45

What model is the Graham Slee?

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