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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyddroid View Post
    a couple of years ago i snapped the cantilever off my Lyra Delos cartridge. As you can well imagine i was gutted. Anyhow, i shoved it in a box and forgot about it. Today i decided to see how much it would be to have a ne cantilever/tip put on so i contacted North West Analogue. I nearly pooped me kaki catchers when i was quoted £700. I could buy a brand new one for £825. WTF? Is it me just being tight or old fashioned or does that not represent good vfm?

    Contact Andy Kim at:

    http://www.phonocartridgeretipping.com/contact.html

    His work is impeccable and for around $400 U.S. or 270 GBP he will install a new boron cantilever with microridge stylus (very similar to or quite possibly exactly what was originally on the Delos) and will also rebuild the suspension if necessary in that price.

    I've had Peter Ledermaan at Soundsmith do a number of cartridges with ruby cantilevers for a little bit less than this with no suspension work (he doesn't do it) but am currently running an Ortofon MC 20 Super that I had Andy totally rebuild and retip with the boron/microridge mentioned above and it was a substantial improvement over the aluminum cantilever and FG that was originally on the cartridge. I would highly recommend him.

    Turnaround time will be about 3-4 weeks.

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    Holy shit £700, ha ha ha, he flatters himself at those prices. Anyone would think he'd been trained at the world's best cart manufacturers. Has Dom ever received formal training?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Holy shit £700, ha ha ha, he flatters himself at those prices. Anyone would think he'd been trained at the world's best cart manufacturers. Has Dom ever received formal training?
    Must admit his prices are hard to believe sometimes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Holy shit £700, ha ha ha, he flatters himself at those prices. Anyone would think he'd been trained at the world's best cart manufacturers. Has Dom ever received formal training?
    Well...

    Did Yoshiaki Sugano go to night school, to learn how to design cartridges? Where was he 'formally taught'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Holy shit £700, ha ha ha, he flatters himself at those prices. Anyone would think he'd been trained at the world's best cart manufacturers. Has Dom ever received formal training?
    It's ok to quote those prices if you don't want any business, that's his business model.
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    Expert stylus will fit a sapphire cantilever with paratrace tip for about £350; they're very good too.

    It's not that long ago that dom quoted me £250 for a retip with a fritz geiger s tip; the lesser geiger tips were all cheaper.
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    I wonder what's technically more difficult, removing and fitting a stylus or just replacing a canti with stylus ready fitted.

    Marco, there was a long piece in one of the mags several years ago covering Sugano San's cartridge apprenticeship, he did study under another maker before making his own.

    David at Goldring was similarly trained, Expert Stylus main business is diamond cutters for fibre optical cables.

    Maybe expecting premium prices to equate to premium training and experience doesn't match up in the hifi world...
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    I don't recall anybody complaining about Dom's work. As far as I'm aware it's very good. The photo's I've seen show nice looking jobs. He did an inspection and clean on one of my ZYXs a while back and charged me £60 which was certainly cheaper than some would charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I don't recall anybody complaining about Dom's work. As far as I'm aware it's very good. The photo's I've seen show nice looking jobs. He did an inspection and clean on one of my ZYXs a while back and charged me £60 which was certainly cheaper than some would charge.
    Nobodies complaining about his work, just the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    I wonder what's technically more difficult, removing and fitting a stylus or just replacing a canti with stylus ready fitted.
    It's much, much easier just to replace the whole canti and it will always be more expensive to retip your existing one.
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