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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    A nice and neat set up.
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    One thing though, were it mine I would locate your Quad 405 'monoblocks' directly behind each speaker. That way you can minimise the length of the speaker cable.
    I had thought about this but was concerned this would be too long a run as the interconnect would be 7m long, however....

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I would also modify the input to the 405s so they can use a balanced-line feed from the preamp (assuming your pre has a balanced line output).
    if it (Croft) did I'd be more inclined to try it but unfortunately is doesn't, the Oppo does but I don't use it with Quads. With respect if it did I'd be more inclined to try a couple of your summer amps instead.
    Darren.

    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    CDP/BDP/DAC. Oppo 105D. Cassette Deck Technics RS-AZ7.
    Pre Amps. Croft Super Micro 2 / Oppo 105D. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks / Nakamichi AVP1. Interconnects Klotz MC5000, MS Audio.
    Front Speakers. Celestion Ditton 44. Centre Speaker. B&O Beovox 5700. Surround Speakers. Celestion UL8 Rear Speakers Celestion Ditton 11.
    Rack. Mana Acoustics.
    Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    Excellent pics, matey, and glad that it's all starting to come together. As usual, the sesh we had on Friday was educational in its own little way, and beneficial to you in terms of fine-tuning the system. It's amazing what difference another two inches makes!

    Good luck with the OB project!

    Marco.

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    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Modified Goldpoint SA4M-47 passive preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    You know it's primarily thanks to you things sound the way they do, was going to give you a dedication in the OP but thought it maybe a little too sycophantic .
    Darren.

    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    CDP/BDP/DAC. Oppo 105D. Cassette Deck Technics RS-AZ7.
    Pre Amps. Croft Super Micro 2 / Oppo 105D. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks / Nakamichi AVP1. Interconnects Klotz MC5000, MS Audio.
    Front Speakers. Celestion Ditton 44. Centre Speaker. B&O Beovox 5700. Surround Speakers. Celestion UL8 Rear Speakers Celestion Ditton 11.
    Rack. Mana Acoustics.
    Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    Lol... On AoS, bro, we're all here to help each other - and besides - I really enjoy the experience, especially when I see the big grin on your (and Luke's) chops afterwards!

    Marco.
    "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do". - Milan Kundera.

    My system:

    Modified Technics SL-1210MK5G/Mike New high-precision bearing & baseplate/Mike New ETP platter/Bruil record weight/Nagaoka GL602 crystal T/T mat. Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules)/DCSXL pure-silver DC lead. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm/'Speedy Steve' custom-made Ebony armboard. Yannis Tome 423.5 Phono Silver-Litz tonearm cable, with Furutech CF-DIN(R) and Eichmann silver Bullet Plugs. Cartridges: Denon DL-S1 in AT MG-10 headshell with AT-6106 Quattro Hybrid lead-wire. Denon DL-103C1 in '103U' headshell with AT-609 silver lead-wire. Vintage Denon DL-103AU in AT-Ti15ANV Titanium Headshell. Shure M55E in Denon PCL-300 headshell with 6N silver lead-wire. Shure original USA SC35C. Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 transport/DAC. Raspberry Pi-3 Model B and IQaudio Pi-DAC+/Paul Hynes SR3DR-05 linear PSU. Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X preamp. Modified Goldpoint SA4M-47 passive preamp. Stereo Coffee LDR. Head-amp: Paul Hynes design/SR5 PSU. Also modified Lentek. Tube Distinctions 50W Class A P/P Copper amp with cryo-treated Tung Sol KT150s. Speakers: 'Lockwood Majors', using 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds, modified with bespoke crossovers. Also Celestion Ditton 15XRs. Stands: Mana Acoustics (non-magnetic stainless steel 'clones’). Hi-Fi Racks Podium T/T wall shelf. Sony ST-5055L tuner. Cables: Furukawa EE/F-S 2mm & 2.6mm solid-core mains leads, fitted with Furutech FI-50 IECs and FI-1363Rs. Stereo interconnects: Sommer Carbokab 225 (with silver-plated MS Audio non-metallic POM RCAs). Speaker cable: VDH 'The Wind' Hybrid II. Digital coaxial cable: 1m Trompeter Electronics Triax TRC-75-2, with MS Audio ‘Starline' silver-plated RCAs. Mains block: Mark Grant 6-way, modded with Furutech FP-1363R sockets and Furukawa cable. Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW 16.5 record cleaner.

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    Really great system Darren with many components I would be very happy to own myself. Indeed I used to have Quad 405 amp and the original croft micro before moving onto his more advance beasts! Also had a Garrard but it was the 301.

    So nice all this old stuff still does the biz.

    Thanks for the pics and sharing your system with us.

    Only change I would make would be to get Glenn to service and upgrade the Supermicro and try a pair of Spendor SP1 on the end.
    VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T Tonearm / 2M Black /Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Spendor SP2

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    Very, very groovy system, Darren.

    Love it... one of the nicest systems I've seen in ages. Well thought out, great components. Well done!

    Now... you need a shag pile rug and a rocket lamp.
    Preamplifier: Croft Epoch Elite - Dual external PSU & Upgrades
    Amplifier: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp No. 5 using KT150's
    Digital: Raspberry Pi & ALLO Piano DAC & KALI - IQAudio DAC with SBooster Linear BOBW PSU & Trio DP700 CDP
    Turntable: Thorens TD124 MkII - Schopper refurbished
    Tonearm: SME 3009 S2 None Improved - Audio Origami modified
    Cartridge: Ortofon SPU GT
    Speakers: 15" Tannoy Monitor Golds in Lockwood Majors with Tannoyista Spec 3 crossovers
    Cables/Mains: Mark Grant Black Series mains cables & 6-Way power bar
    Cables/IC's: Mark Grant HDX1 Pure Copper + Custom made Silver/Gold interconnects
    Mains Other: Tube Distinctions/Mark Grant 'The Power Works' Digital noise mains power filter TD2414-MG - Nick Gorham DC Blocker unit constructed by Mark Grant

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    Nice one Darren. I always imagined that K-Billy would look like Donald Sutherland's Oddball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Really great system Darren with many components I would be very happy to own myself. Indeed I used to have Quad 405 amp and the original croft micro before moving onto his more advance beasts! Also had a Garrard but it was the 301.

    So nice all this old stuff still does the biz.

    Thanks for the pics and sharing your system with us.

    Only change I would make would be to get Glenn to service and upgrade the Supermicro and try a pair of Spendor SP1 on the end.
    Thanks James, I take it you found the Micro 25 a step up from the Micro? At this stage I don't know whether to upgrade the Micro, swap it for a 25 or go for something with big valves? Marco will be bringing his Charisma (which I covet) round at some point, I've heard it against little valves and always thought the Charisma came out on top.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    Very, very groovy system, Darren.

    Love it... one of the nicest systems I've seen in ages. Well thought out, great components. Well done!

    Now... you need a shag pile rug and a rocket lamp.
    Thanks Joe, I'm always on the look out for a vintage lava lamp. I did have a Fat Lava lamp in there a couple of years ago but swapped it for the Angelpoise. I do still have a penchant for West German pottery .

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Nice one Darren. I always imagined that K-Billy would look like Donald Sutherland's Oddball.
    Lol! After seeing SW (on TV) I can't imagine anyone else now, I think he looks and acts exactly like he sounds. Further to the conversation we had (probably coming on for 12 months ago) about the Oppo your concerns over the digital volume control were correct, I'm still happy with it but I'm going to struggle not to look at AV pre / processors now .
    Last edited by DarrenHW; 05-08-2015 at 07:49.
    Darren.

    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    CDP/BDP/DAC. Oppo 105D. Cassette Deck Technics RS-AZ7.
    Pre Amps. Croft Super Micro 2 / Oppo 105D. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks / Nakamichi AVP1. Interconnects Klotz MC5000, MS Audio.
    Front Speakers. Celestion Ditton 44. Centre Speaker. B&O Beovox 5700. Surround Speakers. Celestion UL8 Rear Speakers Celestion Ditton 11.
    Rack. Mana Acoustics.
    Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenHW View Post
    Thanks James, I take it you found the Micro 25 a step up from the Micro? At this stage I don't know whether to upgrade the Micro, swap it for a 25 or go for something with big valves? Marco will be bringing his Carisma (which I covet) round at some point, I've heard it against little valves and always thought the Carisma came out on top.



    Thanks Joe, I'm always on the look out for a vintage lava lamp. I did have a Fat Lava lamp in there a couple of years ago but swapped it for the Angelpoise. I do still have a penchant for West German pottery .



    Lol! After seeing SW (on TV) I can't imagine anyone else now, I think he looks and acts exactly like he sounds. Further to the conversation we had (probably coming on for 12 months ago) about the Oppo your concerns over the digital volume control were correct, I'm still happy with it but I'm going to struggle not to look at AV pre / processors now .
    Hi Darren,

    my recommendation if you are thinking of replacing the Croft micro would be to listen to a Firebottle KIN, although I am sure the Charisma X is also a good way to go.
    VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T Tonearm / 2M Black /Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Spendor SP2

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    Thanks James, I borrowed the loaner FB and was very impressed by it but found the presentation a little to far forward for my taste, in my system. I think the 401 and 405 are quite forward in their sound and with the FB this was not the sound I was looking for. From what I'd heard of Crofts they had a deeper presentation which I preferred so I bought the Micro 2 as a cheap way to get a feel for the Croft sound in my system. I do prefer the presentation of the Micro 2 but can hear where it was bettered by the FB. I did consider a FB with a passive as I think this would offer a great VFM solution.
    Darren.

    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    CDP/BDP/DAC. Oppo 105D. Cassette Deck Technics RS-AZ7.
    Pre Amps. Croft Super Micro 2 / Oppo 105D. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks / Nakamichi AVP1. Interconnects Klotz MC5000, MS Audio.
    Front Speakers. Celestion Ditton 44. Centre Speaker. B&O Beovox 5700. Surround Speakers. Celestion UL8 Rear Speakers Celestion Ditton 11.
    Rack. Mana Acoustics.
    Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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