This is hard work.

[Steve Toy]

David Price and myself are trying to enlighten some closed minds. I know I'm losing the will to live over there.

http://www.zerogain.com/forum/showth...=23019&page=24

This is the busiest thread they've had for a long time...

Take a look and if you dare, join in and restore some equilibrium and (my) sanity.

[anthonyTD]

David Price and myself are trying to enlighten some closed minds. I know I'm losing the will to live over there.

http://www.zerogain.com/forum/showth...=23019&page=24

This is the busiest thread they've had for a long time...

Take a look and if you dare, join in and restore some equilibrium and (my) sanity.

hi steve,
i have just briskly run through this thread and what i will add has been totally over looked by those idiots on there, one of the main reasons why most transistor amps have that paticular "grainy" sound is because unlike valve amplifier circuitry that produces mainly low order harmonic distortion ie, usualy no higher than 2nd and 3rd order, most transistor amplifier circuitry produces low and high order odd harmonic distortion,ie, 3rd 5th 7th 9th and so on, and its the high order ODD harmonic distortion that we cant stand listening too for any length of time, in even very small amounts! this is one of the reasons transistor amplifier manufactureres try to get their over-all distortion ratings as low as they posibly can , its to try and eliminate even the smallest amount of these high order harmonics!!! also sometimes
when you put a valve circuit after a solid state circuit that is producing these high order harmonics, the valve [remember not being able to produce high order harmonics] will supress those high order harmonics and therefore can make the previous un-listenable circuitry sound well,,, listenable!
therefore, valves have natural compresion and limiting characteristics, which give them the ability to re-produce sound in a way much closer to what we recognise in real life!
i am not a member of that forum so i cannot comment direct, but you can by all-means quote what i have written, it may help, but reading between the lines with some of these characters, i doubt it.
regards,anthony,TD...

[leo]

I flicked through the posts, way too much hard work for me wanting to get involved with that

[Dave Cawley]

I was asked to join the thread. I simply cannot understand rude, arrogant, ignorant people with a chip on their shoulder. So it's not for me then?

However, this is the time to publicly thank Steve Toy for his support. My sympathies to David Price for the utter unpleasantness and rudeness shown towards him...................

Regards

Dave

[chris@panteg]

Dave
i tried to make a feeble effort ' to say how good your timestep is but i was mostly ignored.

I have made similar post's on other forum's (AV/PFM) but it seem's badge snobbery rules .

BMW/AUDI driver's suffer from a similar handicap

[Alex_UK]

I now realise why I've stopped here on AoS after my previous experiences (not of zg I hasten to add.) Hamish's "encounter" on PFM completely put me off venturing too far anyway - where's that group hug smiley when I need it?

[Ali Tait]

Why bother? Life's too short..

[Cotlake]

Yes, agree with Ali. It is worth observing that a few years ago, Rob Holt was evangelically commited to valve amps. I wonder what happened there

[Clive]

Yes, agree with Ali. It is worth observing that a few years ago, Rob Holt was evangelically commited to valve amps. I wonder what happened there

I couldn't believe what I was reading form him, he's changed his spots

[Spectral Morn]

Sorry but the saying " pearls before swine" comes to mind, ZG waste of time IMHO.


Regards D S D L