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    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    Hi Fi fora are like planets each with their own orbits, inhabitants and atmospheres. Occasionally they align in the night skies but more often than not they spin around each other and sometimes exert gravitational pull on one another. We of the membership are simply astronauts, visiting interesting new worlds but mostly returning to the planet we call home. Our role is to bring moon rocks back from the new planets we visit to enrich our understanding of the universe and to take artifacts from our home worlds to the other planets so that they may in turn learn from us.
    Or destroy them with fire, if we're in a bad mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned there: one of technology making you lazy? You know what they say, if you don't use it, you lose it...

    You should also know that Shaun is a major exponent of the merits of film photography.

    Marco.
    Indeed - my film cameras were fully manual: manual focusing, manual exposure control; I would take a light reading with a light meter (or even estimate the setting) and decide on the aperture and shutter speed. I would even choose the focal length of the lens, as I didn't use zoom lenses.

    My digital camera, which admittedly is a compact pocket jobbie, is auto-everything - and I just hate it!

    If I could still continue to use Kodachrome 64, I would be back to using my film cameras (of which I have 8 ) like a shot!
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    And we call that 'progress'?

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    A 'proper' digital camera enables you to override all the automatic stuff if you're so inclined. But I think 99% of a shot is in the composition, which is why mine are usually crap.

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    I have always done silver halide based photography in the past and as an old friend once told me, "Never burn your bridges" so even though I have my trusty old Mamiya RB67 up for sale I do intend to keep my Pentax 645 and maybe even buy more lenses for it. I cannot understand these people who claim that film is so difficult to use these days because it is no longer available... bollox to that, just try looking in the correct places, seek and thou shalt find...! I obtain all of my photography gear from Silverprint in London or Ag Photographic. No shortage, no problem, it does however run very expensive these days. That brings me on to yet another issue, the pricing of photographic printer paper. Why is cotton fibre printer paper so much more expensive than paper coated with the halides of a precious metal...? This one I simply cannot understand.

    To carry on a comment made by Barry; I too find that things are so very different with a digital camera. OK, when I use my Pentax 645 it has a built in TTL metering system but with the Mamiya RB67 it is a handheld exposure meter every time. I liken shooting real photographs to listening to vinyl in that there is a whole different procedure that has to be followed to obtain the most precise results. Camera, tripod, filter, composition allowing for the rule of thirds and then manual calculation allowing for the filter; all things I am very sure Barry will know about. Digital camera; aim and shoot with a bit of composition. What we are losing here is skill...!

    Yes, I still shoot film and I shall bloody well continue to do so and yes, I process my own film in a tank the old fashioned way but then I slide a black piece of vinyl out of a Nagaoka sleeve and put it on my Thorens turntable. Am I making sense...? Do you feel what I feel with these words...? Digital photography is not photography, it is IT in a similar way to digital music on a PC or Mac. These technologies are purely about convenience and I know damn well I do not do things because they are convenient in the same way I am damn sure Marco does not. I once visited a photographic gallery in Glasgow with a female friend and 99% of the time I could tell her which was silver halide and which was digital. It is as obvious as CD versus LP.

    OK, once again I have been allowed to say my bit. I have now been involved with photography for 45 years since I was 10 years old so yes, I am damn passionate about it and I adore it with all of my heart. I love film to bits but I am starting to find a place for digital. I've said enough I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    And we call that 'progress'?

    Marco.
    +1 to that

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    I have just put a film scan of a medium format negative onto the Abstract Gallery thread 'Malham Limestone Pavement' so that a direct comparison may be made.

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