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    30 yeasr since I played a record. In those days, you bought a square piece of black 'felt' to wipe your records/vinyl before playing, or at least I did!! What are the modern methods? I've heard about Moth Record Cleaning machines but £500 does NOT come within my current budget! Cheers Tony

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    Lots of threads on this, have a look at this-

    http://maquinaphk.xpg.uol.com.br/models.html

    Doesn't look like much, but it does as good a job as any other record cleaning machine. You do need to use your own vacuum cleaner with it though.
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    Ali's alternative is a good one but if that is out of budget too then your only real option is the wood glue/PVA method. It works but it is a time-consuming and you need a well-ventilated area for application and drying unless you want to get a thick head. Drying takes hours and hours but peeling the dried glue caste off is quite good fun.

    Don't be tempted to wash them in the sink with fairy liquid or any of the other half-brained suggestions you might see around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Ali's alternative is a good one but if that is out of budget too then your only real option is the wood glue/PVA method. It works but it is a time-consuming and you need a well-ventilated area for application and drying unless you want to get a thick head. Drying takes hours and hours but peeling the dried glue caste off is quite good fun.

    Don't be tempted to wash them in the sink with fairy liquid or any of the other half-brained suggestions you might see around.
    If Fairy is half-brained then so is wood glue. They work just about as well as each other in my experience. I have tried both (on old vinyl of course) and whilst the washing up liquid might not be recommended, I can't see how it does any more harm that PVA provided it is rinsed off well with some distilled water and dried properly. Darn sight quicker that's for sure.

    The only good way is with a machine designed for the purpose although the ISIS recommended Revirginator looks interesting but expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Microbialt View Post
    30 yeasr since I played a record. In those days, you bought a square piece of black 'felt' to wipe your records/vinyl before playing, or at least I did!! What are the modern methods? I've heard about Moth Record Cleaning machines but £500 does NOT come within my current budget! Cheers Tony
    Moth Record cleaning machines, and Keith Monks machines etc etc were also around MORE than 30 years ago!

    Pretty much the very same methods from back then are the ones in use today. As always, it depends on your budget or your ability to make a machine somehow yourself.

    The only modern technique I can think of is one which slowly turns the record in an ultrasonic cleaning bath - a commercial machine aimed at audiophiles is a rip-off £3000 or something daft whilst some people on the internet have made their own for £200 odd and a bit of handy work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Steadman View Post
    If Fairy is half-brained then so is wood glue. They work just about as well as each other in my experience. I have tried both (on old vinyl of course) and whilst the washing up liquid might not be recommended, I can't see how it does any more harm that PVA provided it is rinsed off well with some distilled water and dried properly. Darn sight quicker that's for sure.

    The only good way is with a machine designed for the purpose although the ISIS recommended Revirginator looks interesting but expensive.
    yes if you dont have a huge amount of vinyl then a 500 pound machine isnt nesessary. the revirginator isnt cheap but apparently does a great job and youll get a fair few out of a bottle done.. record cleaner fluid is not that much cheaper and you have to factor in the machine cists as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Steadman View Post
    If Fairy is half-brained then so is wood glue. They work just about as well as each other in my experience. I have tried both (on old vinyl of course) and whilst the washing up liquid might not be recommended, I can't see how it does any more harm that PVA provided it is rinsed off well with some distilled water and dried properly. Darn sight quicker that's for sure.

    The only good way is with a machine designed for the purpose although the ISIS recommended Revirginator looks interesting but expensive.
    Tap water has mineral deposits in it which you don't want nestling into your grooves, not sure about distilled. But the fairy liquid has salt in it so is a mild abrasive, wheras the glue method does no harm providing you dont skimp so that when you peel it away it comes off in one piece. It's a bit like the shed skin of the monster in Alien. I know since I've tried it on a number of albums. Also tried the Re-Virginator but it is no different to the glue as far as I can tell.
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    For a few records buy a disco antistat

    For quite a few records buy an Okki Nokki

    For lots and lots of records buy a VPI or Loricraft

    For a waste of time and effort use PVA/wood glue

    I don't like the Moth or Nitty Gritty machines as they vacuum from underneath which means you have to turn the record over after cleaning which drips the cleaning fluid everywhere.

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    mine dont drip
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