The Rega cd player works fine with the Emile......
Using another amp..Icon audio....the audiolab, and rega are fine....
The Emille only goes bizarre when using the audiolab
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The Rega cd player works fine with the Emile......
Using another amp..Icon audio....the audiolab, and rega are fine....
The Emille only goes bizarre when using the audiolab
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Not definately if the distortion only comes about after some time. He might have only tested with the Rega when the amp was cold..Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L
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hmmmmmmm
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Hmmm indeed!
Did the Audiolab work with the Emile before and is the distortion instant, both when the amp is cold and when it's been on for a while?
It's possible there is some kind of earthing arrangement with the Audiolab and associated cables which could cause distortion given some particular design of the Emile amp.... don't know what that might be, but I reckon it would be possible!
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If its working fine with the other amp then its pretty much gonna be to much input for the amp in question. pity it doesn't have variable outputs
edit. if you can lay hands on a passive pre then you could use that to attenuate... better than just attenuators and more accurate.
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My Rega Planet CD Player works and plays fine with Dad's (lonergan2468) Emile amp at all times.
The Audiolab CD Player is causing the rough/distortion sounds through the Emile.
SIMPLES!!!
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Not that simples! Because as stated in the quote above, the Audiolab also worked fine with the Emile amp! And it took a whole 20 minutes for the distortion to kick in.
What is time-based that can cause distortion? I can only think of something temperature based or something oddly software based (sounds like the Audiolab has software inside which can be reset, probably to do with receiver chips, memory buffers, modern dacs etc..).
When you tested the Audiolab with the Icon audio amp, how long did it take to swap them over, how long did you test it for? More than 20 minutes? Fault could be a temp related thing in the Audiolab but which didn't show itself with the Icon Audio amp because it was only tested quickly as anyone would, a quick test.
EDIT: in other words, no only does everthing need to be tested in different combinations to sort out where the distortion is coming from, but also at different temperatures for those different combinations.
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I have had the very same amp for some while now and never had one single issue, nothing at all. I have stripped and examined the amp and circuit and it's pretty bomb proof to be honest and of very high quality, especially the transformers, where it matters. I have also played many different CDPs through it without a single issue. The CDP input will be configured (in this case) for a standard 2v CD input sensitivity and it's speculative at this case to assume that it is an overload but it is possible. I would suggest that you ask the guys who repaired the amp and know the circuit as they are the experts. I can only speak from the experience I've had but the Emille Ki-40L remains as one of the highest quality valve amps I've so far ever come across, so stick with it. It's probably something simple/overlooked, but asking Radford's who've had yours apart, I would suggest, is the best place to start!
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Maybe there is DC offset coming out of the outputs of the player in question ? if the amp that has an issue with it has no capacitors in the front end to block this, then it could be upsetting the bias on the first gain stage of the amp, causing it to distort.
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