Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the Denon103 and Denon 103r and how this difference affects acoustic presentation of the cartridge? Are both these cartridges still available?
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Denon 103 vs 103R
Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the Denon103 and Denon 103r and how this difference affects acoustic presentation of the cartridge? Are both these cartridges still available?
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I think that one has very pure copper and the other dosent. Yep both still available as far as I can remember.
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They do sound different. They share the punchy bass character and there's some similarity in the decent mid presentation, but the 'R' is considerably better, far more refined, detailed and cleaner at the top and I'd say more open sounding. I've used both side by side. The 'R' is well worth the extra money over the basic 103 and has little or no real competition at its price.
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+1Originally Posted by walpurgis
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Thanks for this thread Jim I'm very interested in the Denon 103 so Ill go for the 103R in stead
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I've a 103 coming this week, hopefully, can't wait to hear it
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Guys
Just owned a denon 103R. Its really a good cart. First of all it has a warm sound. It makes you feel that you are listening a vinyl.
But ı wonder with which settings we can get %100 of its performance. I mean vta, vtf, how much ohms etc? For xample ı heard that it is recommended to increase the arm to have better performance. Has anyone experienced any of these?
Thanks a lot.
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buy yourself a heavy 12" denon arm. everything else is of secondary importance if you haven't done that.
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Thanks. Sounds like an important advise but my TT is not designed for 12'.
It has 8' arm.
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Just received my new (to me) Denon 103 with isokinetic weight stuck to it, cart and weight and fixings are about 13g and along with my headshell (MS HA-202) the combined weight is about 23.5g.
I've mounted it on my MS MA-202 arm and used the supplementary weight for the back of the tonearm to balance out the cart and first impressions are very very good, I'm listening to a stereo version of Kind Of Blue through the MC module of my Quad 34 pre-amp.
Sound is quite old fashioned but in a good way, quite dark, I think, like being in a nightclub, losts of low notes kind off heavy sounding I think but not horrible or anything like it just different sounding from my Reson MM cart.
Bass is full and piano is pretty good to, think I like this cart with jazz.
Should I add more weight to the headshell guys, I've a 3g technics weight that I could use and that will get the arm up at the cart end slightly too?
Surface noise is almost non-existant on this record which is an old 1964 CBS pressing but I know it well.
I'm tracking at 2.5g with the anti skate the same, dead easy to set this up on the MS arm BTW.
Toe tapping stuff this cart.
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