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Thread: Using Stan's DAC in my studio: D/A converter comparison

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    Join Date: Feb 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    How does your mixing desk compares sound wise against a preamp? Have you got one of them with all the bells and whistles like tone controls etc?

    Stan
    I'm not sure what you're getting at here Stan. I was using the stereo line-level inputs of the mixing desk on channels without pre-amps.

    This is the mixer I use.

    Regards,

    Simon.
    System 1: Marantz CD6000OSE, Beresford TC-7520, Marantz PM6010OSE, QED QNect II interconnect, Dual CS505 Mk3 turntable with Audiotechnica AT110E cartridge, Denon DRM-700A cassette deck, biwired B&W 685 S2 speakers on sand-filled Atacama SE24 supports.
    System 2: Marantz M-CR610, JPW Gold Monitors, Chord C-Screen speaker cables, NAS drive.
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    Thanks for the writeup Simon. I have found there is very little difference at all between different DACs using 16-bit audio, certainly the difference really is very significantly less than with changes in preamps, amps or especially speakers/headphones.

    Did you use a 16-bit or 24-bit input to the DAC?

    Matthew.

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    Hi Junglist,

    Honestly I have no idea whether my audio card was sending 16 or 24 bit. I always work in 24bit but I suppose it's possible that it was getting truncated or dithered somewhere along the line. I'll have a look at the instruction manual for the Delta 1010 and see if it's possble to set the output bit rate.

    I was surprised at the lack of difference because the TC-7520 made a significant difference in my hi-fi.

    Simon.
    System 1: Marantz CD6000OSE, Beresford TC-7520, Marantz PM6010OSE, QED QNect II interconnect, Dual CS505 Mk3 turntable with Audiotechnica AT110E cartridge, Denon DRM-700A cassette deck, biwired B&W 685 S2 speakers on sand-filled Atacama SE24 supports.
    System 2: Marantz M-CR610, JPW Gold Monitors, Chord C-Screen speaker cables, NAS drive.
    System 3 (portable): Cayin N3
    My website: Foxysounds website
    My music: Foxysounds music

  4. #14
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    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you all on this ...

    It turns out that the digital output of the audio card I use matches the bitrate of the software that's driving it (in this case Cubase). In Cubase I always work at 24 bit but my comleted projects have a dither plugin on the output bus to dither down to 16 bit. The incomplete ones don't.

    To cut a long story short I was listening with a mixture of 16 and 24 bit sources.

    So, Stan, How much would it cost me for the Caiman upgrades for my TC-7520 (including fitting)?

    Simon.
    System 1: Marantz CD6000OSE, Beresford TC-7520, Marantz PM6010OSE, QED QNect II interconnect, Dual CS505 Mk3 turntable with Audiotechnica AT110E cartridge, Denon DRM-700A cassette deck, biwired B&W 685 S2 speakers on sand-filled Atacama SE24 supports.
    System 2: Marantz M-CR610, JPW Gold Monitors, Chord C-Screen speaker cables, NAS drive.
    System 3 (portable): Cayin N3
    My website: Foxysounds website
    My music: Foxysounds music

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