Jehovah’s Witnesses

**Ninanina** · 10-02-2015, 21:47

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Being an Atheist, I won't waste breathe on a topic I don't recognise the existence of.

Snap....

**walpurgis** · 10-02-2015, 21:58

I believe in Father Christmas though.

**struth** · 10-02-2015, 21:58

There is only silicon heaven......the human one was only made up to stop us going nuts

**Spectral Morn** · 10-02-2015, 22:16

Originally Posted by ReggieB

I invited them in a while back. Religion fascinates me, (but I find that the more I read about it the more ludicrous it seems), so I don't mind having a chat about it.

It all ended a little quickly when one of them said that Christ was perfect, to which I replied that he most certainly wasn't. In fact, him being imperfect was the whole point. That despite having to put up with human frailties he managed to follow the path to god, and therefore acted as an example to us. If he hadn't had to struggle with his human imperfections, spending all that time in the desert being goaded by the devil wouldn't have been a problem. My final point being that if Christ was perfect he wouldn't have doubted god when on the cross and cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?". At that point they went off in a huff and haven't been back since.

It's quite interesting really. They can usually quote sections of the bible, but they rarely understand the meanings of the passages.

My father's favourite tactic is to ask them if they are disappointed that they'll never get to heaven, as there is only space for fourteen thousand, and far more than that have died already. So there's no chance that the Jehovah's witness that lands on your doorstep is going to squeeze it.

With respect your theology is deeply flawed, showing a lack of understanding regarding orthodox Christian beliefs. Unless Christ was perfect, sinless and without flaw he could not be the spotless lamb that could take away the sin of the world. A flawed, sinful Christ would be just the same as the rest of us and that just would not work.

And JW theology which is not orthodox Christian states that only 144,000 will go to heaven, so the figure you state is incorrect.

**ReggieB** · 10-02-2015, 22:23

Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L

With respect your theology is deeply flawed, showing a lack of understanding regarding orthodox Christian beliefs. Unless Christ was perfect, sinless and without flaw he could not be the spotless lamb that could take away the sin of the world. A flawed, sinful Christ would be just the same as the rest of us and that just would not work.

And JW theology which is not orthodox Christian states that only 144,000 will go to heaven, so the figure you state is incorrect.

Cripes. It's even more gobbledegook than I thought.

**Spectral Morn** · 10-02-2015, 22:28

I will bow out now because this will rapidly become disrespectful and rude.

**Andrei** · 10-02-2015, 22:42

The meek shall inherit the earth. The intention, if I understand it correctly, is that on the resurrection life (for billions I suppose) is on earth.

**ReggieB** · 10-02-2015, 22:52

Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L

I will bow out now because this will rapidly become disrespectful and rude.

It sort of went the same way with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I think I have a talent.

**walpurgis** · 10-02-2015, 22:55

Originally Posted by Andrei

The meek shall inherit the earth.

Only if that's OK with the rest of us.

**struth** · 10-02-2015, 23:09

By the time the non meek are finished with it I'd guess they'll be welcome

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