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    Join Date: Feb 2015

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    I'm Michael.

    Default Learning curve

    I've been a happy Naim user for three decades but my musical tastes have veered so far towards solo piano and Blue Note jazz that I'm wondering if I should try a different approach to hifi.
    I've joined this and a couple of other forums to get an idea of what might float my boat in bringing about a more 3-d impression of music.
    Thanks for reading
    Mick

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    For that type of music, single ended valves (with the right speakers) is hard to beat IMHO.
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    welcome to AoS Michael. sure you will get plenty help in your quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    For that type of music, single ended valves (with the right speakers) is hard to beat IMHO.
    +1

    Welcome Mick,

    Ali is absolutely right, and I would add that it will sound even better with a vinyl front end…
    I envy your journey of discovery!
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    Welcome on board.
    +1, you should try a nice SET with some efficient speakers
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    Some nicely fettled tannoy monitor golds with a decent external cross over and a nice pair of set monoblocks will work very well for jazz. You may also want to try a Ortofon spu with a decent arm.
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    Hello from me too Mick. Welcome to AOS.

    So you want a new approach to your Hi-Fi? I see the lads have been harping on about Single Ended Triodes. Well, that is one way to go, but there are so many options. I currently use Class A solid state as well as valves. I'd say bide your time, listen to opinions and try to hear as many types of equipment as you can.


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    Hello and welcome Mick.

    Geoff.

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    Join Date: Feb 2015

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    I'm Michael.

    Default some things won't change....

    ...namely the 3-way ARTs and my CDS3/XPS source. I also have an LP12/Aro/Troika but haven't bought a new record for 20 years (but had bought hundreds in the preceding 30 years).
    I've recently had a home demo of a Vitus RI-100 and that brought some of what I'm trying to achieve. I'm not really au fait with valves although did recently hear a well-off guy's man cave system which was Audio Research Ref3 pre and 210 mono blocks into speakers that cost more than my car. Great sound but the size (and price) of such units negates their consideration.
    Someone on another forum recommended I try Accuphase so a trip to Cheshire planned.
    I was also warned that Sudden Masterclass don't really come 'on song' until around 90 mins has elapsed. I've often finished listening by then.
    That's where I am so far. No rush, the Naim is really good stuff but just looking to do a bit better.
    Thanks for reading
    Mick

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    Welcome to AoS Michael.

    A change of direction? Well I love jazz, solo piano jazz (Theloneous Monk, Keith Jarrett etc.) as well a classical piano (Beethoven, Rachmaninov etc.). In fact I have a very broad taste in music, all of which is relayed to my satisfaction via a pair of Quad 57 electrostatic speakers powered by 25 watt class A monoblock amplifiers.

    Horn speakers (for example Lowther), powered by SET amplifiers are very good for piano - but in my experience have limitations which I don't like, although the same could be equally said by others about Quad 57s.

    The best advice I can give you is to suggest you visit as many audio dealers in your area armed with a few LPs of the music you like, and listen to some systems different to your own Naim based system. Take your time - don't let yourself get bamboozled by what the dealers say; make up your own mind. It often helps to have a partner to listen with you.

    Good luck - let us know how you get on.

    Regards
    Barry
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