New phono stage

**6L6** · 22-01-2015, 01:58

Originally Posted by Andrei

I have notion that it is good to have tubes 'somewhere in the system'

I agree wholeheartedly!

...I'm in the middle of making a valve phonostage, (and have built them in the past) and let me tell you it's a fantastic place to insert noise into your system. Doing it right is very complicated and difficult. Most commercial tube phono I've heard are just plain noisy.

I suggest a fabulous SS phonostage and then a Valve linestage preamp. (Or power amp.)

**Renfin** · 22-01-2015, 02:34

At this stage would prefer a SS pre. A couple of other ideas are,
Parasound jc3
Lehmann black cube se11 or decade

But would also prefer balanced out.

**6L6** · 22-01-2015, 02:37

Balanced out from the Phonostage? That's going to blow your budget. And most balanced out are just balanced line drivers after the SE gain/RIAA/gain. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)

**chris_s** · 22-01-2015, 07:26

+4 Firebottle from forum member Firebottle (Alan) - had the lovely valve phono stage (mines the MM plus) for a few weeks and its astonishing. Some have said its a steal at £400 and probably out performs valve phonostages three times its price!

Chris

**Ali Tait** · 22-01-2015, 07:46

I have a two box version which is very quiet and has both balanced and single ended outputs. Is MM/MC also. Not heard anything at the price to touch it.

**RichB** · 22-01-2015, 08:58

I've been lucky enough to hear the firebottle stage a couple of times. I didn't know it cost only 400quid, expected v high price to accompany the v high performance I heard.

At that price I'd consider one myself.

**Renfin** · 22-01-2015, 09:12

Balanced out from the Phonostage? That's going to blow your budget. And most balanced out are just balanced line drivers after the SE gain/RIAA/gain. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)

I believe the ayre P-5xe is balanced. Though will have to use a rca to xlr adapter or modify the rca as per recommendations by ayre.

**Renfin** · 22-01-2015, 09:13

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

I have a two box version which is very quiet and has both balanced and single ended outputs. Is MM/MC also. Not heard anything at the price to touch it.

Can you post a pic would like to see it. Cheers

**Ali Tait** · 22-01-2015, 09:30

Build thread here-

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...ss-pronography

**Renfin** · 22-01-2015, 10:51

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Build thread here-

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...ss-pronography

Thanks for that. Does look interesting and its balanced. Though at this stage I think I'll stick to a SS pre.....cheers

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