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    Way hey... Result!

    Go for the AT33PTG - it's a no brainer, mate. Trust the Marco-boy. I knows me cartridges

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I'll second that, Marco is very good indeed with anything turntable related.

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    The cartridge can wait a while....

    I'm looking for a transformer for the PSU at the moment, I want something with 240V primary and 270-275V secondary. Anyone got any ideas?

    Shian7
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    Sorry, mate, you need a techie-type for that one.

    Going back to your cartridge (for a second) if you fancy sticking to am MM instead of a coil, then I would recommend any of the Nagaokas shown here on the Musonic Styli site:

    http://www.musonic.co.uk/

    Click on 'Cartridges', then 'Nagaoka'.

    Some of the more exotic ones there are really fab

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Right, I've had enough of waiting for transformer manufacturers to 'get back to me'! (I was thinking).

    When rather fortuitously, an email arrived yesterday with some interesting schematics attached. One of which is an intriguing take on the PSU I was thinking about making which uses a pair of 240:9V traffo's back to back, all the components seem to be easily obtainable 'off the shelf' items so there should at least be some progress shortly!

    There is a name on the corner of this schematic, to whom I may be addressing some questions. Take a bow Mr Nick Gorham!

    Cheers,
    Mike.
    Shian7
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    kudakutemo

    ari mizu-no tsuki

    Though it be be broken -
    broken again - still it's there:
    the moon on the water.

    - Choshu.

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    Here's the schematic for the PSU:


    By Shian7 at 2008-04-12



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    Shian7
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    Kudakutemo
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    ari mizu-no tsuki

    Though it be be broken -
    broken again - still it's there:
    the moon on the water.

    - Choshu.

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    Thats most of the parts now ordered!

    I just need the choke and tubes, and I'm away!

    Oh!..and a box!

    Shian7
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    Kudakutemo
    kudakutemo

    ari mizu-no tsuki

    Though it be be broken -
    broken again - still it's there:
    the moon on the water.

    - Choshu.

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    Maplin doesn't supply the choke any more, but the same one can be found here

    http://www.livinginthepast.demon.co....s_summary.html

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    By Shian7

    Do I need the bit in the red box I wonder....... What's it for?

    Shian7
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    Kudakutemo
    kudakutemo

    ari mizu-no tsuki

    Though it be be broken -
    broken again - still it's there:
    the moon on the water.

    - Choshu.

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    Its a C4S constant current source, it has two jobs. It isolates the supply from the rest of the phono stage by looking like a very high impedance to AC, and it provides a load for the VR regulators to work as shunts.

    What phono stage do you intend to use after it? As if its the one I built that supply for, that also has CCSs in the first anode load, and you may have trouble finding the depletion mosfets I used in that position, so you may need to use two more C4Ss anyway.

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