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    I have a cracking Croft Pre amp I am looking at selling. The only reason why I'm selling is I'm having a stab at building my own pre amp. here is a link to the sale thread when I bought it from the wam
    http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread...71-Croft-Epoch
    Mods not sure if it is ok doing it this way but I'm in Cape Town for Christmas, so hope this link to the Wam is ok.
    The pictures are not so great, in the flesh it's a lovely bit of kit and looks quite special.

    As there are a few Epoch models, I asked Glenn Croft a few questions about it as I couldn't find that much info on this exact model. Glenn is VERY help ful but a man of few words, but this is his email back to me.

    Hi James,
    the Epoch name was used for about 15 years and covered lots of different chassis and circuits. This one is a very good later version with an excellent circuit and using the Octal triode valves and it’s a bargain price, at that I would bite the guys arm off. I would say it is simular to a Micro 25R.
    Cheers,
    Glenn.

    Price is £600 posted.
    As I,m away I wouldn't be able to post till jan 1st or so.

    Cheers
    James
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    Amplification: Pre amp-Stereo Coffee pre amp on steroids.
    Power amp- Rather large Colin Wonfor Class A power Amp
    Speakers: Lampizator P17 Open Baffles
    Accessories: Klotz 500 DIY Interconnects & DIY speaker cable sounding better than anything commercial.
    All powered from a Mother Trucker BPS with a dedicated consumer unit with 10mm armoured radial back to the house tails after the meter.

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    Link not working James ?
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    Source: Heavily modified DDDAC using MacBook Pro.
    Amplification: Pre amp-Stereo Coffee pre amp on steroids.
    Power amp- Rather large Colin Wonfor Class A power Amp
    Speakers: Lampizator P17 Open Baffles
    Accessories: Klotz 500 DIY Interconnects & DIY speaker cable sounding better than anything commercial.
    All powered from a Mother Trucker BPS with a dedicated consumer unit with 10mm armoured radial back to the house tails after the meter.

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    Thought I'd add the pics for you - Always better than just a linky

    This is a stonker of a pre - Brilliant for the money, worth twice that and more IMO.














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    Massive thanks Jo, much appreciated .
    Source: Heavily modified DDDAC using MacBook Pro.
    Amplification: Pre amp-Stereo Coffee pre amp on steroids.
    Power amp- Rather large Colin Wonfor Class A power Amp
    Speakers: Lampizator P17 Open Baffles
    Accessories: Klotz 500 DIY Interconnects & DIY speaker cable sounding better than anything commercial.
    All powered from a Mother Trucker BPS with a dedicated consumer unit with 10mm armoured radial back to the house tails after the meter.

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    Your welcome, James. Good luck with the sale.


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    Keep it James, you'll regret it. I have a Croft Charisma Elite, Glenn built for me 16 years ago with the help of Tom Fletcher (RIP) of Nottingham Analogue. And have been buying his stuff loyally.

    In all my years, I am yet to hear better and have been offered serious money for it and declined every time. Have been lucky to be acquainted all those years ago with Bill Beard too and to know how good these British manufacturers are.

    Don't do it - I would love to go into more detail but would betray the friendships I have made. That's a little piece of history!

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    I have the Epoch Elite and modded to the hilt.

    Is there a reason why you are selling it, James?... You know that for very little outlay Glenn can update this pre and will blow the pants off so many £2k+ pre's on the market today. The Octal valves really make the difference over the small ECC83 signal valves imo...

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    Second that, Glenn serviced mine and updated it accordingly for pennies. It's a destroyer of high end pre amps - that's the highest recommendation I can give. I've seen blood drain from grown men's faces listening to it as they witness it's ability! Oh and before folk get any ideas - Glenn won't make them anymore, so don't bother hassling him!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    I have the Epoch Elite and modded to the hilt.

    Is there a reason why you are selling it, James?... You know that for very little outlay Glenn can update this pre and will blow the pants off so many £2k+ pre's on the market today. The Octal valves really make the difference over the small ECC83 signal valves imo...

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    Perfectly stock Croft preamps have been doing this for decades now The one here looks fab and with only ONE volume control! Bearing this in mind, if there's ANY way you can keep it for reference until the DIY one is finalised (try and compare straight through with no preamp if you can to either put in the circuit). I keep my old Croft as it's much better sounding than when I bought it and knowing that Glenn can tweak one or two iffy things out easily (iffy phono stage output loading being the main thing).
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