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    Join Date: Apr 2014

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    I'm gerald.

    Default alternative to a mike new bearing

    I would love a mike new bearing but due to be not able to work are there any other bearing out there at a more affordable price

    Gerry

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    As far as I am aware, there are three alternatives.

    1. Sound HiFi bearing £249
    2. Inspire Hifi Phosphur Bronze Bearing Housing £95.00
    3. DIY your own - like this http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...hlight=bearing

    Prices above are taken from the respective web sites, and I have no experience of any them, being a Mike New owner myself.
    Kevin

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    Hi diviy,
    At $685 for my High Precision Bearing this converts to about Stg385 at the current low exchange rate for the Ozzy dollar.
    Which is not a great deal more than the very basic gluged up bearing offered by Cawley of Sound HiFi
    Who incidentally, still maintains that all 0V connections from his basic power supply, must be made to the top Right Hand hole of the PCB
    where there is no direct connection to the common 0V rail of the PCB.
    This was covered extensively on this forum over two years ago!!
    The 'Bronze Bearing Housing' unit can hardley be compared with mine in the same sentence.

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    Save up for the Mke New Bearing instead. If it takes you some months to wait for it, it is worth the wait, I guarantee you

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Save up for the Mke New Bearing instead. If it takes you some months to wait for it, it is worth the wait, I guarantee you
    +1, or follow Ken's (Qwin) DIY bearing work if you have the facilities, but to be honest at the price the NMB is now it's a bargain, it really will transform your Techie. If I were to go down the Techie route again I'd have his base plate aswell.
    Darren.
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    Speakers. TBC

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    Maybe the Garrard can benefit from a new bearing design would it be worth the effort??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    Maybe the Garrard can benefit from a new bearing design would it be worth the effort??
    As a consumer I'd say yes the Garrard (and market) could definitely benefit, however there are already aftermarket options:

    http://www.northwestanalogue.com/nwa...d-bearing.html
    http://www.peakhifi.co.uk/cgi-bin/ec...uct&db_pid=582

    aswell as aftermarket housings:
    http://www.classichifi-shop.co.uk/blog/408.html

    and thrust pads:
    http://www.classichifi-shop.co.uk/pr...el-thrust-base
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1115420048...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    As far as I'm aware no one does an aftermarket grease bearing, but there may be a reason for this?
    Darren.
    Listening Room.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    Pre Amp. Croft Super Micro2. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks.
    Speakers. TBC

    Home Cinema.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    DAC/Pre Amp. Denon AVC X3700H.
    BDP/Streamer. Panasonic DP-UB820EB / Apple TV4K.
    Display. Optoma UHD51 / DIY False Black Window Screen.
    Power Amps. 2 x Nakamichi AVP1.
    Front Speakers. DIY Baby Celestion Ditton 66. Surround Speakers. Celestion Ditton 11. Subwoofer. BK Electronics P12 300SB PR.

    Old Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    Thanks Darren for the links to bearing suppliers.
    The Peakhifi unit costs more than my bearing and still only uses stainless steel.
    The problem may be that all these lessor TTs use a belt drive which requires that the bearing must be relatively loose compared to
    the precision fit which can be used on a direct drive system, otherwise there will be tensional oscillation in the belt drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    The problem may be that all these lessor TTs use a belt drive which requires that the bearing must be relatively loose compared to
    the precision fit which can be used on a direct drive system, otherwise there will be tensional oscillation in the belt drive.
    Sorry, you've lost me, the Garrard 401 & 301 are Idlers.
    Darren.
    Listening Room.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    Pre Amp. Croft Super Micro2. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks.
    Speakers. TBC

    Home Cinema.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    DAC/Pre Amp. Denon AVC X3700H.
    BDP/Streamer. Panasonic DP-UB820EB / Apple TV4K.
    Display. Optoma UHD51 / DIY False Black Window Screen.
    Power Amps. 2 x Nakamichi AVP1.
    Front Speakers. DIY Baby Celestion Ditton 66. Surround Speakers. Celestion Ditton 11. Subwoofer. BK Electronics P12 300SB PR.

    Old Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    After I had used the MN bearing and changed back to the original bearing, then I really heard what the MN did to the sound. Mine took some time to run in, but once it was it does so much.

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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