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    Gary,

    Marco the Yaqin was even more laid back and softer sounding than the naim...
    Yes - because of the Proacs

    This is not how it sounds in my system, or any system I've used it in other than yours/your brothers, given that we heard his CDS3/282/Hicap/250 instead of your CDX/102/180.

    Naim gear is also usually always "miles better" than anything else in the context of a Naim system

    By all means next time we can listen to the gear at your brother's place. Hopefully by then the Yaqin will be fully modified and results might be very different.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I'd agree with Marco, there. Naim very much has its 'own sound' ... so if it's taken as the benchmark all others must fall short just because they are bound to be different.

    I had a demo of a full Naim/Neat system the other week, it was pretty damn stunning on amplified music, which was what was demoed first - I thought I could definitely see a Naim system in my future - but some classical tunes were then played and it fell rather short, imho. (Actually, that's being a tad polite).

    I had a chat with the dealer ... he said, "Yes, I rarely dem the Naim kit on classical. It's impressive on rock & blues, though!"

    Horses for courses, once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Gary,
    Yes - because of the Proacs
    Marco.
    Not necessarily. The speaker cables can potentially have an enormous influence. I've found that in my own system and also when setting up the WD room for the Bristol Show. Three years back the system was set up with a pair of cables (I don't recall what they were) that cost a couple of grand. Even after warm up it sounded awful. I substituted with my home brew 3/6 pence CAT5 'Twisted Twins' and all of the sudden we had synergy. There maybe more than one issue with your findings and it might be more than just the amp and the speakers.

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    You're right, Greg. There are other potential anomalies which could have skewed results and cables could have been one of them. I would have to say though that Gary's Chord Signatures worked exceptionally well with the Proacs. Chord cables normally possess quite a bright sonic signature but with the Proacs slightly laid back sound it produced a synergistic balance.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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