Project ONGAKU - A project too far....?

**Ali Tait** · 03-10-2014, 05:46

I'd take Nick up on his offer were I you, his amp is rather good.

**Wakefield Turntables** · 03-10-2014, 18:32

Originally Posted by YNWaN

Yeah, it's supposed to be something like 20 year old weather aged silver that has been drawn into wire and wound into transformers. A 'proper' Ongaku is a mixture of heritage and mystique that can't be replicated.

I dont subscribe to that bullshit about "aged silver". I also dont buy "heritage and mystique".

Originally Posted by Mr Kipling

If you ferret around the net, you'll find it mentioned, by the designer, that the use of (Italian) silver plays a significant role in how it sounds.

I'm sure it does but English silver will work fine for me.

Originally Posted by YNWaN

Are you actually sure that an Ongaku is the amp you want?

YEAH! Why would I suggest a project making a pair? Why ask such a question?

Originally Posted by Mr Kipling

The capacitors are silver too, as is the wiring.

No worries I'm sure we could find some very nice alternatives.

**Wakefield Turntables** · 03-10-2014, 18:36

Originally Posted by lurcher

Depends if you want a 211 SET or a Ongaku. As already said, ANUK and AKJP Ongaku's are very different. And given the history between the two I doubt you can get ANJP transformers from ANUK. Lots of ways of doing a 211 SET. I have a pair of silver wound 211 output transformer somewhere, AE will wind them for you.

Originally Posted by lurcher

If you want to try a 211, I have the 211 SET I built a few years ago you are welcome to try, but it will need collecting.

http://www.longdogaudio.com/content/211-a2-amp

OK, looks like I'm probably going to try and emulate Ongaku UK then. I'd be looking at getting a pair of monoblocks. I cant collect for a while as I have a special delivery of my own in the next few days which means most of my time will be taken up doing night feeds.

Do you have enought 211silver wound output transformers for a pair of monoblocks?

**Ali Tait** · 03-10-2014, 18:52

Well, he has a pair.

**Wakefield Turntables** · 03-10-2014, 18:59

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Well, he has a pair.

CHEEKY!

**Ali Tait** · 03-10-2014, 19:02

Seriously, the AE silver wound amorphous core trannies are very very good IMHO.

**Ali Tait** · 03-10-2014, 19:05

http://www.transformatorspecialist.n...welkom_en.html

**loo** · 03-10-2014, 20:42

Originally Posted by REXTON

OK, looks like I'm probably going to try and emulate Ongaku UK then. I'd be looking at getting a pair of monoblocks. I cant collect for a while as I have a special delivery of my own in the next few days which means most of my time will be taken up doing night feeds.

Do you have enought 211silver wound output transformers for a pair of monoblocks?

Nice amps both incarnations , you could save a few quid by sticking with the layout of the AN uk or Kondo Ongaku and leave it as a single chassis stereo amp rather than
splitting it into monoblocks.

**Mr Kipling** · 03-10-2014, 21:48

I'm sure you could end up with a decent sounding item, but as to how it will compare to the original item is a moot point. The UK Audionote version sounds different (inferior) to the Japanese Kondo version. Apparently the circuit is common and the differences result from materials used.

**YNWaN** · 04-10-2014, 14:25

Originally Posted by REXTON;

YEAH! Why would I suggest a project making a pair? Why ask such a question?

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I ask because your question comes out of the blue. It wasn't, "I've just been borrowing one and it is simply the best amp I have ever heard". In fact, you don't say you have heard one at all - hence the question. Given the cost that even a copy would entail I would want to be absolutely sure it was what I wanted before I set out.

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