Interesting I had a MK1 then...
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Interesting I had a MK1 then...
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Have you actually handled a MNB?Originally Posted by DSJR
Just to put your comment into context.
I think the answer is probably no, so any comment you make regarding the MNB is pure speculation. Such comments cannot be taken seriously!
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On the original ad it said it was a Mark 1 on the shipping notice I received it says SL120mk2 so until it arrives TuesdayAs needless to say, nobody is there over the weekend.
The mk1 was very neutral IIRC, so I'll give it a go. My Japanese ex NHK mate, is saying Jelco all the way for the 103
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As you know, I totally agree with him. Let us know, mate, if your Techy is a MKI or a MKII
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People do this all the time - talk about things of which they have not experienced. One's ideas do not come from experience alone, they can come from deductive reasoning, speculation or other sources for that matter, one may have been told something by someone. Just to take a random example. Vehicle A has a more weight, a larger profile viewed from the front, and a larger engine than Vehicle B. It is reasonable to extrapolate that vehicle A will have a higher fuel consumption. Hell, I expounded many theories of the female anatomy before I actually handled one.
In the case of a MNB I would reason that there is more drag because the bearing has to rotate within a bath of oil, which the standard bearing does not. As it happens my recollection is that the spin down time for the MNB (power off, not the stop button) is that it is faster to stop than the stock bearing. In principal the drag is not a good thing though the motor / servo appears to cope with it.
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I've handled a MNB ( David had one at Whittlebury Hall last year). It is very stiff to turn as against the stock bearing and would cause drag as DSJR has suggested IMO.
I would also like to point out that I'm not being critical of the MNB just that I felt that DSJR's comment had validity.
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Actually a small amount of drag maybe a good thing as the servo will have something to work consistently against. On the PFM speed analysis thread there where plots showing how beneficial it could be when applied correctly using highly viscous oil.
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OK it's arrived and it's a MK1 with an SME armboard. The original feet are missing and have been replaced with three metal cones and plates which I'm not sure of. Pics to follow later as i'm hell busy at the moment, but the lid is a brand new really substantial after market one in a really nice 6mm perspex. For what I paid for it I'm reasonably happy and i think it will do the job.. I now need a Rega to SME adaptor, anyone know if sound supports are still going or have a phone number for them, their webshop is not working and I can't contact them. Or does anyone know of an alternative adaptor, that's cheap and well made?
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Hi,
congrats to your new deck!
Just bought a SL-120 a month ago as well. Got an armboard for my LAD Jelco derivate from Soundsupports an I must say it sounds better
than my SL-1210 with the same arm/cartridge combination. Even my wife recognized it from the first song playing. Choose a good tonearm and
pick a good platter mat and you should be fine and just listen to music.
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