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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Nah I'm with Marco on this one that deck is crying out for an FR-64 (probably the FX in bad boy black).

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    Nice T/T, shame about the arm!

    More seriously, I think the 774 sounds good, but I just don't like how it looks. I like to see a nice 'fat' headshell stuck onto the end of a tonearm, so the Mission's 'minimalist' approach, in that respect, isn't for me.

    I'd have put one of Denon's own broadcast arms (with detachable headshell), or an FR-64, on that T/T. Each to his own her own, I guess!

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Just checked the prices of the FR64's, I think I'll just stick to my Mission, as much as I'd like to try a Fidelity Research arm, at £1000+ I don't think it would be 4x better than the 774, however if anyone is selling an FR64 for around £500 let me know 😉

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    Don't listen to us, Mike. Just enjoy your Mission. Sonically, it's very good. Looks are a personal thing

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Don't listen to us, Mike. Just enjoy your Mission. Sonically, it's very good. Looks are a personal thing

    Marco.
    Lol, I like what the Mission does but then again I've only compared it to the stock arm which although isn't as good as the Mission I'm considering putting it back on just because it looks right if you know what I mean, the Mission looks odd on the Techie though, the FR54/64 would look 'right'. I think I've just admitted to liking the style/colour of an 'S' arm 😀

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    I can easily imagine the Mission outperforming the stock Technics arm. There's no comparison, really. Therefore, I'd stick with using the Mission until (if) you find something even better that suits your T/T's aesthetics.

    If you're on the lookout for a quality S-shaped arm, and want to stick with the vintage option, but something cheaper than an FR, which will sound and look superb, rather than a modern arm like a Jelco, then consider those from Micro-Seiki, and the Denon arms I mentioned earlier, such as this little beauty, which can be found on the likes of German ebay for around £150:





    Nice simple, classic vintage looks.

    And that's only one of the many arms that Denon did. There are even nicer ones available, such as the DA-309:







    That, or something else of its ilk, is what I'd have fitted to the Denon T/T shown earlier. It's what should accompany any classic Jap D/D turntable. Fit a DL-103 to one of those and you'd be in sonic heaven!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Just checked the prices of the FR64's, I think I'll just stick to my Mission, as much as I'd like to try a Fidelity Research arm, at £1000+ I don't think it would be 4x better than the 774, however if anyone is selling an FR64 for around £500 let me know ��
    64fx is about £700, it's the S that's got expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    64fx is about £700, it's the S that's got expensive.
    Just been searching and saw that, so not beyond the realms of possibility for me, I'm now on the hunt lol

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    Yeah the da309 is a nice arm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Just been searching and saw that, so not beyond the realms of possibility for me, I'm now on the hunt lol
    Give it a try Mike.

    I bet the 774 goes back on within a couple of days though!
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