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Thread: Bargains on ebay? (Part 2)

  1. #8151
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    This is taking the pi-- price wise
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162749140769?ul_noapp=true

    And NO RETURNS
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  2. #8152
    Join Date: Jan 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    This is taking the pi-- price wise
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162749140769?ul_noapp=true

    And NO RETURNS
    Agreed - though some like the look of vintage Marantz gear.
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  3. #8153
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    Will add value to any setup. really..

    another arsewipe flogging his dead old mans /uncles gear with a smart phone....
    Add water... Makes It's own sauce!

  4. #8154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelred View Post
    Is the Matisse really that good or this is more like collectable item? This is getting into serious money territory. Was tempted to try but I think not at that price.
    Well the Matisse is/was hand made and in limited numbers, so in that respect it is "collectable". The fit and finish is very good as you would expect from a Swiss made product.

    It received a very good review when HFN reviewed it many years ago, so in that respect it is "good".

    I love the 'battleship' build and look of the preamp: like something that would not be out of place in a broadcasting studio or a laboratory. I expect it will finish up north of £2.5K.
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  5. #8155
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    Garrard Turntables on Ebay -my own experience with ebay-sellers dealing with Garrards

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    Dear Sir,

    For your information: regarding the Garrard 301 deck delivered we have opened the dispute console on ebay. As the text length for messages on ebay is restricted to 500 characters only, we are sending you the full text of our complaint by mail.

    Please find below your original text as found in your ebay-listing for this item and then what we have actually got delivered.

    "Colour: White. The white enamel paintwork is outstanding, and I can state categorically that it is totally original and that it is NOT a respray. There are absolutely no dents, scratches or blemishes."

    Real condition: 1,1 cm long and deep scratch (looks actually more like a deep "cut") next to the right front mounting screw. Deep chip on the left edge of the chassis.

    ----> "absolutely no dents, scratches or blemishes. Superb, unmarked."...??


    "Platter: excellent condition and no warping."

    Real condition of the platter: black paint flaked off at several points and many scratches & blemishes. The platter is cosmetically in such a condition that it can only be sandblasted and resprayed.

    ---> "excellent condition. Superb, unmarked"...??


    "The thrust plate and bearing have been re-lubricated as have all of the linkages. The turntable runs smoothly and very quietly on all three speeds."

    Real condition:

    Platter tilt while in rotation caused by unusually large bearing side-play -measured up to 1mm! The bearing shaft shows signs of irreparable damage that are typical for running the turntable "dry" for a long time. That is presumably the reason for the unusually large play in the bearing.

    Damaged idler wheel resulting in uneven run at all speed. Resulting from the damaged bearing and idler wheel strange noise coming from the drive system and very high rumble, particularly when switching off at 33/45 rpm speed and the platter is slowing down. At 78rpm due to higher speed strange noise from damaged idler wheel and rumble are present all the time while in run.

    The bearing was "dry" when delivered. Also the platter was "sitting" on the bearing shaft so tightly that we had some problems to unfit it by hand. This is a clear sign that the platter haven’t been taken off for "decades". In no way you can make us believe, that the turntable was re-lubricated and tested prior to delivery with results as described in your listing: "The thrust plate and bearing have been re-lubricated… The turntable runs smoothly and very quietly on all three speeds".


    "As may be seen from the photographs, the Decca Tone Arm is in very good condition"

    Real condition: marked and scratched everywhere. Rusty bearing resulting in inadequate friction.

    "Cartridge: This is in working order."

    Real condition: Cartridge in non-working condition, picking up signal from local radio station when connected to the preamp!

    As we are an audio dealer specialized in selling complete Garrard systems and many Garrard decks are going through our hands, we can certainly distinguish a good or mint condition unit from what we call "crappy-Garrard" with mechanical problems that they only can be used for spares. We are sure that contrary to the statements made in your listing, the deck delivered had NOT been tested prior to delivery, or it had been tested but the actual condition concealed to fetch a price that would be for a non-hammerite 301-deck in cosmetically & mechanically outstanding condition. The poor mechanical condition (unusually large bearing play, damaged idler wheel) are evident directly after switching on the unit. We have looked into your previous auctions on ebay and noticed that all your Garrard listings include the same item description, in truth you use a copy-and-paste description for all your Garrard listings.

    We consider your business and this purchase as a fraudulent act.

    We grant you the possibility to take back this turntable and issue a full money refund.

    Regards

  6. #8156
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    Karich, if you do not receive any satisfaction from the seller, I suggest you "name and shame".

    There are IMO too many sellers on ebay trying to flog tatty samples of desirable and sought-after items.
    Have you listened to this month's choice in the Album Club?

    Barry

  7. #8157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    £2350.00 and counting
    For some reason back down again to £1k-ish.
    Speakers - 'RFC' Tannoy Canterburys with custom crossovers; Amp - Radford STA100; Preamp - EAR 912; Vinyl: Thorens TD124 MkII with Ikeda IT345-CR1 and Ortofon 309 Limited tonearms; Cartridges: Miyajima Madake, Zero Mono 0.7 and Premium 1.0 retipped by Ana Mighty Sound with bamboo cantilever, Ortofon SPU Royal N and Shure M3D with Jico stylus; phono stage and SUT from EAR 912; Esoteric Sound Re-Equalizer for equalisation of early mono and 78; Digital: Audio Note CDT2/II transport.

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  8. #8158
    Join Date: Apr 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    For some reason back down again to £1k-ish.
    Probably a dodgy looking bid from Albania or the like was removed.
    Mr. Tact!

    Main system: MMs/ADCs/Low output MC's/One rare Japanese SUT/One scarce British phono stage/various tonearms/hefty Japanese DD TT and hefty Japanese BD TT and small British BD TT. 4 CD players/2 jitter buster/2 DACs/Valve buffer. TVC stepped attenuator or valve pre-amp or solid state pre-amp. Current dumping power-amp or either of two Class A SS power-amp or Class A EL34 valve monos or big Japanese (part Class A) integrated. Big dual concentric speakers/Smaller dual concentric speakers/Two way British compacts and full range speakers, amongst others. And too much more to list!

  9. #8159
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    the price of the Matisse has dropped considerably, looks like someone was trying to uncover someone's max bid and has then retracted their bid.

  10. #8160
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    Quote Originally Posted by killie99 View Post
    the price of the Matisse has dropped considerably, looks like someone was trying to uncover someone's max bid and has then retracted their bid.
    Yip, that's an old trick that one, it also let's watchers know that the withdrawn bidder is prepared to go to 2350 and put off the competition.

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