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    I have a fully modded (except arm and platter - as I'm happy with them) M5G and it does very well compared with my VPI Classic - at this point I can now change between carts etc and have some nice comparisons. I'm extremely happy having two such different tables (light platter/heavy platter, long arm/short arm, belt, direct,....) I wish I could have them side by side - but I just do not have the room.

    In short - the Technics is capable of greatness.


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    Great looking system you have there. Tubes and VPI Classic. Is it possible for you to explaint the difference between the two turntables? Because as you write, they ate very different. I have never heard a VPI Classic, but they are some great looking decks! What cartridge do you use on Technics and VPI (favorite cartridge)?

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by costerdock View Post
    I have a fully modded (except arm and platter - as I'm happy with them) M5G and it does very well compared with my VPI Classic - at this point I can now change between carts etc and have some nice comparisons. I'm extremely happy having two such different tables (light platter/heavy platter, long arm/short arm, belt, direct,....) I wish I could have them side by side - but I just do not have the room.

    In short - the Technics is capable of greatness.

    And what's more you have a couple of great dogs !
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Hehe, great reply Audio Al

    But how well does it do to others? That is what I want to know
    I have a 1210 Mk2
    fully modded

    Mike new bearing and ETP platter
    Origin live Encounter MK3c arm
    Shelter 5000 cart
    Feet
    Timestep HE power supply

    It sounds Lovely

    It;s my TT of choice the other 15+ TT get a spin now and then

    Also , Its fun doing the upgrades , if you keep all the original item you can return to original and sell all the up grades without loosing much money
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    Is any of your 15 TT one of the turntables I wrote on my list i the opening post.?

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    You don't even need to go fully modded, the SL-1200 has a certain rightness to timing, flow, rhythm, pitch and soul that any low-mass rubberband deck just can't do. It has it when completely stock. (They are just dark when stock) Modded the deck is a complete and utter giant killer.

    The mods you have done have been an improvement in the proper direction, yes? By all reports the ones you mention also move it in the right direction. Don't get caught up in the idea that spending more money on a different, expensive table is a guarantee of good sound... It's just a guarantee of spending more money.
    SP-10Mk2a, Graham 2.2 tonearm. SL-1200, Graham 2.2 tonearm, AT-150mlx, Benz-Scheu Glider. Jim & Ken Super DC PSU, Oil well bearing, Acromat, Isonoes, strobe lamp switched. Pass Labs Pearl 2. Aleph J amplifier. F6 Amplifier. Nelson Pass Burning Amplifier BA-3. Pass BA-PP linestage, miniDSP 4x10, Linkwitz Labs LXmini speakers, Sony SS-M7 speakers.

    DIY In progress - Syclotron Red Light district valve amp, ZenMod "Iron pre" autoformer jfet preamp, SYclotron 'His Master's Noise' valve phonostage. And about 2-3 other projects in various states at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    And what's more you have a couple of great dogs !
    Thanks very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by costerdock View Post
    Thanks very much!
    Something about that pic says all is good

    I think we should get dogs in all the kit pics !
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Great looking system you have there. Tubes and VPI Classic. Is it possible for you to explaint the difference between the two turntables? Because as you write, they ate very different. I have never heard a VPI Classic, but they are some great looking decks! What cartridge do you use on Technics and VPI (favorite cartridge)?

    Thanks very much. On the VPI I'm running a Grado Reference Master 1 and on the Technics a DV 10x5. I cannot really say which is my favorite as I love them both very much - but I have to admit - I'm playing the VPI more often - mostly because of the Grado - also - it is a damn cool table - I love the way the record seals onto the platter with the clamp setup. My goal will likely be to move the Grado back to the Technics as it is quieter there (since the Grado picks up some low motor noise at high volumes - which being unshielded - it is known for - really only noticeable when you are over the record) and move the VPI to a low output DV 20X. When I first heard the VPI - I felt it had a bit more bass than the technics - but that could have been the DV I had on it. I cannot make up my mine - I choose to simply enjoy both.

    Thanks again,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6L6 View Post
    You don't even need to go fully modded, the SL-1200 has a certain rightness to timing, flow, rhythm, pitch and soul that any low-mass rubberband deck just can't do. It has it when completely stock. (They are just dark when stock) Modded the deck is a complete and utter giant killer.

    The mods you have done have been an improvement in the proper direction, yes? By all reports the ones you mention also move it in the right direction. Don't get caught up in the idea that spending more money on a different, expensive table is a guarantee of good sound... It's just a guarantee of spending more money.
    That is very true! Yes my upgrades has given me a very good TT indeed! And I follow you completely what you say about spendig more money and the guarantee of good sound

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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