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Thread: How good is a fully upgraded Technics SL-1210mk2 compared to other high end TT?

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    Sounds fantastic, Chris! Glad it worked out well and that you've benefited from my advice... Told ya, you'd lurve it!

    I completely agree with Rob, in that the ETP platter just 'brings everything together'. Thus done, the Techy 'grows up' and veritably enters the high-end turntable arena. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Thank you very much, Marco I will post pictures and a little review once I get it
    Hi Chris

    How much did you sell your Oyaide for so I can get an idea how much to sell mine for?

    What ETP did you order exactly? It sounds superb even on the YT video!

    Andrew


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    Turntable - Linn Sondek LP12, Kore, Lingo 4, Roksan NIMA, Lyra Delos Cartridge, Roksan HDC-03 arm lead, Trampolin 2 base, Tiger Paw Vulcan, Denon DCD-A110 Cd player, Tag Mclaren DAC20 Digital to Analogue Converter, SPM Interconnects, Nordost Red Dawn Leif Speaker cable, Spendor S3/5R2 Target R1 speaker Stands, Atacama ECO 60/40 hifi racks, Sennheiser HD565 Ovation headphones

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    Hi Andrew,
    If you are seriously considering doing the same as Chris.
    Then I would be happy to accept a payment deposit of $350.00 against the delivery of my ETP Platter.
    This way I will machine it to your requirements and it will be ready for immediate delivery when you have
    sold your Oyaide mat. This also makes the payment easier on the budget!!

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    Just got home from lovely Crete and will enjoy some more music tonight

    Should I get the 3 mm Techncs mat and what can I expect if I put a rubber mat on it. A friend of mine bought a Auditorium A23 mat for his Rega P9 and is very happy compared to a Rega felt mat he used to have... Or shall I just forget about mats and enjoy the ETP as is? I don't want to spend alot of money triying mats all over again. I would rather spend that money on the bearing base plate.

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    I use the Origin live mat on my ETP platter , not convinced that a LP directly on the ETP is a good idea , also you will be increasing the height of the platter with a thick mat and may get VTA problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    Just got home from lovely Crete and will enjoy some more music tonight

    Should I get the 3 mm Techncs mat and what can I expect if I put a rubber mat on it. A friend of mine bought a Auditorium A23 mat for his Rega P9 and is very happy compared to a Rega felt mat he used to have... Or shall I just forget about mats and enjoy the ETP as is? I don't want to spend alot of money triying mats all over again. I would rather spend that money on the bearing base plate.
    I wouldn't get the Technics Rubber mat, it sounds rubbish on any platter IMHO. Many TT's have a vinyl/plastic platter etc. and are meant to have the Lp directly on the platter. If you get a mat what's the point of a label recess on the ETP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue View Post
    I wouldn't get the Technics Rubber mat, it sounds rubbish on any platter IMHO.
    I agree with this. I found rubber mats really counteract the benefits of upgrades elsewhere!
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    During my testing I found that although placing the record directly on the platter was sonically superior to most mats, I actually got ultimate satisfaction from using the Nagaoka crystal mat as recommended by Marco.
    The Nagaoka mat is incredible on the standard platter but combined with the ETP you still clearly hear the benefits of both products.
    This does bump up the VTA quite a lot though as the Nagaoka is 6mm.
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    Once I've ironed out one little niggle I have no plans to add anything more to my Techy now. Or any of my system for that matter!

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    I must say that my music after getting the ETP is more natural than with the original platter. It is hard to explain but if you've got the platter you know what I'm talking about

    I am considering the Nagaoka crystal mat...

    https://youtu.be/Cd12_MbjQf8

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    As great as my Technics SL1210M5G was, my Rega RP10 with the Lyra Delos is in another league But, the time I had with the Technics sure was fun...

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisKemp View Post
    As great as my Technics SL1210M5G was, my Rega RP10 with the Lyra Delos is in another league But, the time I had with the Technics sure was fun...
    Should be, for the price of a small family car!

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