Denon DL-S1S - Any views or opinions?

**Marco** · 19-06-2009, 10:38

Indeed - whereas I would say the reverse! Oh, how it's great that we're not all the same eh?

Marco.

**Dave Cawley** · 19-06-2009, 11:27

I'll take "sweetness, detail, delicacy, instrumental texture, and just overall 'polish' and finesse" over bass boogie any day of the year!

Then only an OC9 will be OK for you?

Regards

Dave

**Mike** · 19-06-2009, 13:52

Originally Posted by Marco

Nick, I think the 'S' denotes 'Super' elliptical, as opposed to just elliptical. It's there to define the improved stylus tip

Marco, the S1 has a 'super elliptical' tip: http://www.independentaudiovideo.com...itemid=1002273

Or 'special elliptical' if you prefer? http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/...non/dl-s1.html

There doesn't appear to be any such thing as an S1S

**jandl100** · 19-06-2009, 19:35

Originally Posted by Dave Cawley

Then only an OC9 will be OK for you?

Regards

Dave

An AT OC9? Ooo - a bit bright and forward! Not for me, ta.

Give me a sweet and refined Denon, any Denon would be better than an OC9!

**Marco** · 19-06-2009, 20:19

Originally Posted by Mike Homar

Marco, the S1 has a 'super elliptical' tip: http://www.independentaudiovideo.com...itemid=1002273

Or 'special elliptical' if you prefer? http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/...non/dl-s1.html

There doesn't appear to be any such thing as an S1S

Noted, Mikey

Incidentally, look at that quoted frequency response:

Frequency range: 20 Hz to 70 kHz

Wow, now that's an extended top end! Kind of supports my subjective analysis. Bet you're getting excited now, Jerry?

Marco.

**jandl100** · 19-06-2009, 21:33

I've received this explaination for the S1S designation from a Wammer ...

"customers who have the S1 can, instead of having a re tip, use denons 'refurbishment' service. You send the 'old' S1 back to Denon. They do not refurb it, but send you a new one. The only difference is it comes in much more simple packing. A sort of Part Exchange service. To show that the cart has come through this service, and to stop dealers selling them as ''new'', the box, and possibly the cart, are identified as S1S."

I dunno if that's right, but it sounds plausible.

**Marco** · 19-06-2009, 22:03

Could be, Jerry. The important bit now is of course just to listen to it. Just watch for that low-ouput and let me know if you need the head amp.

I've got the feeling, though, that this one for you could be a keeper

Marco.

**Mike** · 20-06-2009, 06:57

Originally Posted by Marco

Incidentally, look at that quoted frequency response:

Yep, saw that. Bats should love it!

**jandl100** · 24-06-2009, 07:27

No cart yet - and no word from Nick at The Emprium and he doesn't answer his phone and his website seems to have disappeared.

Errrr ......

Anyone know what is going on here?!

**Marco** · 24-06-2009, 09:04

Hi Jerry,

It does look slightly alarming (I'd feel as you do in your position), but it could simply be that the server on his website is down. How long has it been like this for?

As for not answering the phone, there could be a multitude of reasons, none of which need necessarily be sinister. I'm not sure if Nick was ever particularly great at answering the phone, such is the way his business is structured. Some people are just a bit ‘scatty’ in that regard, so keep trying.

Did you buy the Denon via his website on Ebay? If so, you have protection there, and an effective grievance procedure should anything go awry.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that all goes well. Keep us posted

Marco.

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