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    Hi Mark,

    Will you be stocking any more components available to the diyers? suppliers in the UK seems to be getting fewer and fewer today, I mainly have to import stuff I need from the US etc now

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    Reason I built a diy dac using the TDA1541A S2, this oldie is still the best sounding chip available IMHO but the S2 is getting rare as hens teeth, I was lucky getting mine.
    Attention to the regulation, active I/V output stage and jitter rewards you with some fantastic sounds with this chip
    And don't I know it!!!



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    Hello Marco

    One the point of upsampling, this has been a hi-fi buzzword for some time now and the merits of those who have heard the effects on the sound are divided. Certainly no additional data is created with upsampling that is not present in the original signal it can only serve to create an illusion whether rightly or wrongly. The best option with upsampling is an option to turn on or off so the listener can decide. There a several manufacturers who have chosen not to use upsampling, Naim with the CD555, the Audio Research CD7 makes no mention of it that I can find.

    Regardless of upsampling, oversampling, etc, there are few high grade OEM transport mechanisms available for any manufacturer to use, aside from the Teac Esoteric NEO and lesser Philips CD PRO-2. Almost every OEM is stuck with using cheap plastic Sony, Teac units that have poorer build than many entry level player mechanisms of the 1980’s.

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    Hi Leo

    If you are going to build a DIY then there is no better start then a pair of TDA1541 S2’s. We have also found the I/V converters for this DAC are crucial to performance as is the quality of the regulated DC supplies.

    We are aiming to expand our DIY range of audio components in coming months but the line-up is uncertain.

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    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiocom View Post
    Hello Marco

    One the point of upsampling, this has been a hi-fi buzzword for some time now and the merits of those who have heard the effects on the sound are divided. Certainly no additional data is created with upsampling that is not present in the original signal it can only serve to create an illusion whether rightly or wrongly.
    Now that's very interesting, Mark, and something I've always thought myself. It makes me wonder that if upsampling doesn't reveal additional data then why bother pissing around with the signal in the first place? It's a waste of time, as far as I'm concerned, and imparts a sonic signature that is definitely not to my taste.

    The best option with upsampling is an option to turn on or off so the listener can decide.
    Indeed, however, a better option again might be not to bother including it and just make a decent Red Book player in the first place!

    There a several manufacturers who have chosen not to use upsampling, Naim with the CD555, the Audio Research CD7 makes no mention of it that I can find.
    Yes, and what about Esoteric, Zanden and Wadia? I don't believe they use it either - certainly Zanden don't. 'Keep it simple stupid' is I think a great motto with hi-fi, as long as high quality parts are used in the first place. It's very much like cooking: the simplest recipies containing the best quality ingredients usually produce the best results!

    Regardless of upsampling, oversampling, etc, there are few high grade OEM transport mechanisms available for any manufacturer to use, aside from the Teac Esoteric NEO and lesser Philips CD PRO-2. Almost every OEM is stuck with using cheap plastic Sony, Teac units that have poorer build than many entry level player mechanisms of the 1980’s.
    Exactly, and that's why most of them use the CD PRO-2. Out of curiosity, how would you say it compares to the transport in the X-777ES? I know the NEO is excellent, though. Transport quality matters big time.

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    Hello Marco

    Although the Philips CD PRO-2 is a complete CD mechanism ready to go it has been designed to allow manufacturers to implement their own mechanics for disc loading, disc clamping, etc. In fact some manufacturers like Electrocompanient with the EMC-1 have discarded the aluminium housing in favour of their own heavier, plated steel version. Comparing the CD PR0-2 to the die-cast mechanism used in the Sony x-777ES the Sony is superior in engineering terms. The Sony transport is ultra-low resonance and you also have to consider that the Sony is complete with CD tray that operates with the finesse of a Swiss watch and is near silent when loading and CD’s.

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    That's all interesting stuff to know, Mark!

    and you also have to consider that the Sony is complete with CD tray that operates with the finesse of a Swiss watch and is near silent when loading and CD’s.
    Yes I've always noticed that and admired the mechanism's engineering quality. Almost everything else I've used is clunky in comparison and operates with the finesse of a Massey Ferguson tractor

    Oh, and it also reads CDs ready for playing in a nanosecond! With some CDPs these days you could go away, make a cup of tea, and have a bath by the time they've read a disc. Sssh... Don't mention the Linn Majik to Steve

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    I was wondering, Mark, is there any connection with how long a transport mechanism takes to load and read the information on a disc ready for playing, and its inherent audio performance?

    Or is it just a 'physical' engineering thing that bares no relationship to the inherent performance of the transport mechanism? Basically, do CDPs that takes ages to load a disc (necessarily) sound worse than those that do it almost instantly?

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    Hello Marco

    In my experience the length of time a CD player takes to read the Table Of Contents (TOC) has no bearing on the sound quality of the CD player. The timing variations are down to the type of laser and servos used, the with players like the Sony SCD-1 there are two lasers and the unit has to go through a lengthy sequence before you get the TOC.

    The CDP-R1, CDP-x777ES are amongst some of the fastest I have used!

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    Awww cock!

    I knew I was tempting fate by praising my DVD2900!

    It's playing up!... The 'Pure Direct' switch is now inoperative!... It still plays DVD's etc, but it doesn't switch off the digital gubbins & display any more! I've lost some of the 'magic'!

    Anyone else ever had this problem?

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