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  1. #41
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    OMG! This has been upgraded again and once again Simon has come up with the goods. This phonostage now sounds so transparent and musical on the valve system its a marked improvement over the first version I heard. Simon's optimised it for the Cadenza black so I guess I'm just gonna have to listen all day tomorrow on my reference system. Shehit life is hard
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Mega Modded) DAC Caiman SEG+Anker PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analouge Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MCOrtofon Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 MatTeunto GunMetal Bearing401 PlinthMoldovan Arm SME 3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUPheonix PSU+Tachomter MCAg Meister SPU/DECCA Maroon CABLESArm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker3mm2Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage4Box Paradise


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    I have a R2 paradise for quite same years

    One thing I don't see in your review is any comment about the Paradise speed
    Second thing I think that a loot can be done to improve on the way it sounds

    There are different values for the RIAA components for example

    What do you have on yours?

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bksabath View Post
    I have a R2 paradise for quite same years

    One thing I don't see in your review is any comment about the Paradise speed
    Second thing I think that a loot can be done to improve on the way it sounds

    There are different values for the RIAA components for example

    What do you have on yours?
    What do you mean about speed? Have you heard any dream theater?? If you want speed and complexity I strongly recommend you have a listen.

    The paradise has been updated several times since this thread and is due to go in again at some point this year for some more tweeks. I have no idea what Simon put's in there as I trust his ears.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Mega Modded) DAC Caiman SEG+Anker PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analouge Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MCOrtofon Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 MatTeunto GunMetal Bearing401 PlinthMoldovan Arm SME 3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUPheonix PSU+Tachomter MCAg Meister SPU/DECCA Maroon CABLESArm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker3mm2Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage4Box Paradise


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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    What do you mean about speed? .
    I mean the speed ?Slew rate? of the Paradise
    I noticed that I can hear the T a flute make just before the musician finger completely close the holes for the next note.

    Dream Theater Tel me more ....

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    Hello Sandro.

    I have a few Paradise mods that you might be interested in. Improvements to the shunt and isolation for the incoming psu. If I remember correctly you have extra caps local to the psu input on your main boards already. There's also two better choices for the servo opamp. Check out my Flickr, same user name as on here.


    I should mention that Sandro was the first person I knew with a Paradise, he's to blame for the 22 I've built since then.
    Kuzma Stabi/S 12", (LP12-bastard) AC, USB controlled bi-phase Class A regenerator psu. Benz LP, Paradise (phonostage). MB-Pro, Mdac, Muse 200, Yamaha NS1000m

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    Hi Simon
    Long time ...

    I am going to ceck those mods but can't find you on Flickr ????

    But I was thinking about a second order servo (2 cascaded op amps) so not to interfere whit the low frequency response

    Any news about the super paradise that was mentioned on DIYA tread ?

    Another thing I will try is to supply the Paradise whit the ZenMod Shunty

    Any one whit a clue about designing a better servo here ?

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    I've looked at the output on my scope while measuring the servo, with a signal generator, and I really can't see it affecting the output. I can't see any effect on the rails to the main stages that track the servos action either. But then the servo does next to nothing in mine due to high matching of input stage and thermally isolating the input transistors.

    I do have a spare set of psu shunt boards. So I might quad rail each channel's psu at some point.
    Kuzma Stabi/S 12", (LP12-bastard) AC, USB controlled bi-phase Class A regenerator psu. Benz LP, Paradise (phonostage). MB-Pro, Mdac, Muse 200, Yamaha NS1000m

  8. #48
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    Hi Simon
    What Hfe you use for the transistors?
    I just purchased 1000 of each Fairchild on tape of BC337-40 and BC327-40
    I used the DCA 75 PRO (what a fantastic piece of kit BTW) to measure a few, it look like the 337 range at 420 to 490 and the 327 are around the 350 to 390 so the lot is pretty useless....

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