The Mike New ETP Platter

[Marco]

So how would you describe the 'Funk sound' in comparison?

Marco.

[prestonchipfryer]

Having had a MN ETP platter now for 18 months I am not surprised Martin likes it. Mine has a label recess and I have tried various mats, Achromat, Oyaide, felt and rubber. I didn't like the Achromat as it recessed midrange somewhat. The Oyaide works very well but also a felt mat, surprisingly, also works well for me.

Using just platter without a mat is also possible but I found that bass was a lot stronger, not boomy, though with some recordings far too strong for my tastes. Having said that most classical recordings, mostly symphonic, were served well with a naked platter.

I am looking forward to Marcos findings and David Brooks opinion.

John

[Marco]

Interesting, John... All I can say is that I'm glad I pushed for the ETP platter to be auditioned in this way. It wouldn't have happened otherwise!

Marco.

[Qwin]

Just to correct the information in Martins original posting:

ETP (Engineering Thermo Plastics) this is not a material, it is a generic term applied to all thermoplastics that have good structural properties suitable for more demanding performance criteria.

Delrin is a brand name of DuPont and this brand has approximately 20% of the market for the material, which is Polyoxymethylene (POM) sometimes called Acetal.

If you look at a recycling logo on a moulded product it will say POM.

As DuPont is primarily American the majority of UK users will use a different brand name to Delrin.

So it is more meaningful and universal to say this platter is made of POM or Acetal.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Martin,

How do you find the bass? One of the benefits of the mixed Cu/Al platter was hefty bass, does this new mat lose any?

[RobbieGong]

Hi Martin, Reading your review it was apparent to me you knew what you were talking about . Your findings were mine to a T. The ETP gives music a presentation that simply sounds right ! and as you say whilst not making bad recordings sound better which is a good sign. It was the icing on the cake for me in so much as making me realise what all the other upgrades (Mike New Bearing, arm, external psu, Isonoes etc) combined had ultimately achieved. Do me a favour Martin - Could you, if you get the chance try the ETP with the softer 3mm stock mat. I and the guy who first reviewed Mikes ETP found that combination to be best to our ears. I'm glad you've joined the ETP club, along with myself, John (Prestonchipfryer) and others, it's a lovely well thought out and well engineered upgrade platter for sure, you just get a sense it's gonna be good when you have it in your hands, and it sure does once installed and all the usual arm set up is done.
Blessings
Rob

Oh Andrew, I can tell you that again the bass is just right, not incorrectly lightweight but not over emphasised either - just right. If the track is bassy you'll hear it proper if it isnt you wont get more than is, if you know what i mean !

[Mike_New]

Wow seems that all of a sudden the ETP platter is now the one!!
In fact I have sold about 20 of them spread around the world since I first announced it about 18 months ago. It would seem that a sort of secondary opinion/advice network has grown around it in that time, with orders coming in from various countries in Europe the US and Canada
and of course my part of the globe.
For those that may be contemplating trying to do the same:
The matterial is indeed a variety of Delrin the generic term for a whole range of Acetals, Generally made by DuPont in Germany.
However this is a particular very high grade formula from the US made specifically for aero space, mining and chemical applications that has no voids and can be machined to high accuracy.

[MCRU]

Wow seems that all of a sudden the ETP platter is now the one!!
In fact I have sold about 20 of them spread around the world since I first announced it about 18 months ago. It would seem that a sort of secondary opinion/advice network has grown around it in that time, with orders coming in from various countries in Europe the US and Canada
and of course my part of the globe.
For those that may be contemplating trying to do the same:
The matterial is indeed a variety of Delrin the generic term for a whole range of Acetals, Generally made by DuPont in Germany.
However this is a particular very high grade formula from the US made specifically for aero space, mining and chemical applications that has no voids and can be machined to high accuracy.

Trying to copy your platter Mike or indeed make one from scratch is not for the feint hearted, I looked at Martins before I sent it and it's full of clever bits of engineering and precise set up is required as you well know, I doubt if anyone can come up with something that beats it anytime soon, if ever. The fact you sold 20 and AOS have suddenly become interested in it (which is 100% solely down to Audio Al) is good news for all Techy owners worldwide as it will now be more widely known as the platter to beat! With your bearing as well the Techy has truly come of age!

[User211]

Just to correct the information in Martins original posting:

ETP (Engineering Thermo Plastics) this is not a material, it is a generic term applied to all thermoplastics that have good structural properties suitable for more demanding performance criteria.

Delrin is a brand name of DuPont and this brand has approximately 20% of the market for the material, which is Polyoxymethylene (POM) sometimes called Acetal.

If you look at a recycling logo on a moulded product it will say POM.

As DuPont is primarily American the majority of UK users will use a different brand name to Delrin.

So it is more meaningful and universal to say this platter is made of POM or Acetal.

The first job I ever had involved stress testing strips of Amcel Acetal Copolymer and other plastics produced by American Celanese. By f*&k it was boring.

Sat in a tech lab looking out on a warehouse full of cement sized sacks of the stuff... pellets were generally everywhere.

It didn't last long... a summer job whilst still at school.

The thing is at the time that company really was producing some ground breaking plastics. Think the introduction of the plastic jug kettle. My father clinched the first sales deals with Kenwood etc and was responsible for setting up the first UK Amcel branch with a couple of other ex-ICI dudes if I remember correctly.

[Qwin]

Yeh, Kenwood and Russell Hobbs both used Acetal on their first plastic Kettles (I designed a few for Russell Hobbs) but the material pre dates them by several decades. Acetal has some good properties and is easy to machine so not suprised to see Mike has used it on his ETP platter. DuPont developed some of the great materials, including Nylon, where the name is derived from their New York and London Laboratory's who jointly made the same break through.