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    Actually bought two new LPs this week, still don't have anything to play them on though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Not a very good method at all. In fact looking at some of the other 'cleaning' vids on utube there are an awful lot of people out there in denial about record cleaning.

    All that method will do is move the crud around the record, the amount that will lift off with the brush will be minimal. Yes it will clean fingerprints and some surface dust away but these things make very little improvement to the sound since it is the debris in the grooves that causes clicks and pops and general background noise. I notice he doesn't give us a before and after listen to the record, unlike the bloke who uses a similar method but with window cleaning spray. (His record is improved but still unacceptably noisy after treatment).

    To properly clean a record you need to suspend all the crud in solution and then vacuum it off. There is no more effective way of doing it apart from perhaps ultra sonic.
    It's not perfect I know - but it's the next best method without the need to vacuum. I personally would be happy to use this technique with collectable records. This method also looks better than using a spinclean contraption.

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    What the hell does 4/5th's mean? Looks like 2/3rd's to me

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    What do you guys use to dispense the cleaning product?
    Just a "squeezey" plastic bottle?
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    I use old caps from Fairy liquid washup bottles. They work perfect for me and fits just perfect on the 1/2 litre bottles of aqua purificata i buy from the pharmacy.
    Have tried flower shower bottles and chemical laboratory dispenser bottles, both were worse than the flip top corks.
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    i use a finger press atomiser bottle. works a treat. i just shield label with something as it rotates. easy and effective.
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    As said elsewhere i finally got round to making up my first small batch of my recipe record cleaning fluid. its expensive stuff so as i had most of the ingredients to hand thought i would try it.
    I cleaned 2 records as a trial a few days ago and finally got round to playing them.

    well, I can report that the discs sound great. especially the old bluegrass one. its an old 1963 monoaural recording on the Epic label. its never sounded better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    As said elsewhere i finally got round to making up my first small batch of my recipe record cleaning fluid. its expensive stuff so as i had most of the ingredients to hand thought i would try it.
    So how does it taste, then?

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    I have at last made up my own mix to Paul's (ReffC) recipe or thereabouts. I made two mixes:
    25/75 plus .5%
    40/60 plus .5%
    IPA / deionised & distilled / Ilfotol
    I use .5% Ilfotol as this is the minimum recommended by the manufacturer, and it just starts to 'soap up' when the records are scrubbed.

    I used this instead of my out of date l'Art du Son fluid in a big pump Loricraft. The l'AdS fluid had done alright, and was not evolving new life forms or growing filaments or anything of the kind, just a bottle of clear fluid beyond its best before date mixed and used as required.

    Four observations: 1. The home brew fluid spreads much better across the surface and into the grooves with less 'dry grooves'. 2. There is much less fluid spilled off the side of the records. 3. The amount of fluid used per record is significantly higher, maybe becuase it stays on the records or maybe because it coats the surface so much more evenly. 4. The records come up much much quieter than with my l'AdS fluid.

    Delighted, I shan't be going back. I have no beef with the l'AdS fluid, it did fine and it was beyond its best before date, but the home brew does so much better, the 25% mix is perfect for nice nick vinyl whilst the 40% helps enormously on those grimy treasures that my charity shop habit throws up.

    It takes an hour of ones time to get the bits off amazon and then mix them up when they arrive. I have 5L of cleaning fluid, enough for an army of vinyl, and I'm about £40 down. Of that I will still have 95% of the Ilfotol left once the fluid is gone, so that's about 500 albums really clean for £31 I guesstimate, or 6p an album. Thanks all for the advice in this thread

    Here's a snap of the fluid on the rcm to give an idea:

    Last edited by Jazid; 15-03-2015 at 20:17. Reason: adding snap

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