Car (or bike) Chat!

[Macca]

its all pretty pointless globally anyway with the us still averaging v6 2.5 litre engines. they are changing but as fuel is discounted its not gonna make a lot of difference. add in their dirty power plants, then take China...please

it would make Redd Foxx blush

With diesel vehicles are not talking about global pollution but local pollution at street level.

Diesel particulate matter (DPM), sometimes also called diesel exhaust particles (DEP), is the particulate component of diesel exhaust, which includes diesel soot and aerosols such as ash particulates, metallic abrasion particles, sulfates, and silicates. When released into the atmosphere, DPM can take the form of individual particles or chain aggregates, with most in the invisible sub-micrometre range of 100nanometers, also known as ultrafine particles (UFP) or PM0.1.
The main particulate fraction of diesel exhaust consists of fine particles. Because of their small size, inhaled particles may easily penetrate deep into the lungs.[1] The polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) in the exhaust stimulate nerves in the lungs, causing reflex coughing, wheezing and shortness of breath.[48] The rough surfaces of these particles makes it easy for them to bind with other toxins in the environment, thus increasing the hazards of particle inhalation.[

[Pigmy Pony]

Been in a few pretty fast unmapped diesels. I owned a fairly fast one that could hold its own with any petrol eq. It was pretty clean, got great mileage etc, and although decently big estate could if driven properly get over 50mph. My brothers small diesel got 66mph and was fairly nippy. This govt anti diesel crap will fall eventually when it becomes it or them.
As for battery cars..jeez, gimme a break. They are even bigger pollutants . Energy costs to make and break are staggering

Grant, I'm hoping you meant 50 mpg, not mph, otherwise it's not a very good case for diesels! Unless your motor was made by John Deere or Massey Ferguson.

My definition of performance cars (diesel or petrol) is quite simple. If it has been tuned for performance rather than for economy, it's a performance car. Much like hifi - if it was made with the intention to provide a faithful reproduction of music, it is hifi, regardless of how much it costs.

But as with many other things, I could be wrong!

[walpurgis]

Grant, I'm hoping you meant 50 mpg, not mph, otherwise it's not a very good case for diesels!

Oh I don't know. It was Jeremy Clarkson who said 'no matter how fast your car is, everybody averages 50 mph' and of course, he was right. The only thing extra power and speed does is get you to the next tail back or other hold-up quicker.

[struth]

Grant, I'm hoping you meant 50 mpg, not mph, otherwise it's not a very good case for diesels! Unless your motor was made by John Deere or Massey Ferguson.

My definition of performance cars (diesel or petrol) is quite simple. If it has been tuned for performance rather than for economy, it's a performance car. Much like hifi - if it was made with the intention to provide a faithful reproduction of music, it is hifi, regardless of how much it costs.

But as with many other things, I could be wrong!

it says 50mpg dont follow you

[Marco]

My definition of performance cars (diesel or petrol) is quite simple. If it has been tuned for performance rather than for economy, it's a performance car. Much like hifi - if it was made with the intention to provide a faithful reproduction of music, it is hifi, regardless of how much it costs.

But as with many other things, I could be wrong!

No you're not - you're 100% right! In terms of the bit in bold, *by definition* that's exactly what it is, not what someone's anti-diesel agenda would like it to be instead!

And mine has certainly been tuned for performance

Marco.

[TheMooN]

Weeeeeel....I shall stick with my 2016 one of these totally waisted in London, Diesel Merc Taxi Marco! Surely it is time to go back to your heritage and go Gran Turismo?

[Marco]

Lol! Yes, I'd love one of those, but as I keep saying, where do you put the crates of wine - and how would I get my 85-year old father in the back??

If you've followed me properly during these types of discussions, Rodger, you should be well aware of the "Diesel Merc Taxi"'s raison d'être....

Marco.

[TheMooN]

Lol! Yes, I'd love one of those, but as I keep saying, where do you put the crates of wine??

Marco.

In the butlers Range Rover

seriously, when you no longer have need of more than two seats consider one careful owner Jaguar also, build quality has improved over the last few years and they make for great runs into Europe motors.

[Pigmy Pony]

Yes very nice, I'm trying to picture it with my roof bars and ladders. It just might work-my ladders are also silver coloured.

[TheMooN]

Yes very nice, I'm trying to picture it with my roof bars and ladders. It just might work-my ladders are also silver coloured.

oh never fear, Porsche do a full titanium ladder set for the 911 range starting 5 £27.000