I think their argument is more about confusion over what goes in which section really....
And we seem to have a prefect example right here!
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I think their argument is more about confusion over what goes in which section really....
And we seem to have a prefect example right here!
Shian7
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... and also the number of rooms. Read Darren's last comment
I don't 'get' the confusion at all, as everything seems very straight forward to me!
Perhaps someone should start a separate thread where this issue can be discussed/'thrashed out' in more detail?
Marco.
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Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Nah... it is what it is.
But I still say a phono stage is a TT ancillary! :P
Last edited by Mike; 09-05-2009 at 10:30.
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Of course it is - on its own, but not as part of a preamp (as far as the layout of AOS is concerned).
Is the MS-12B a standalone valve phono stage or a preamp with a valve phono stage built-in?
Preamp = 'amps' and as such belongs in 'Blank Canvas'. All amp discussion should go in 'Blank Canvas'.
Phono stage = 'analogue ancillaries' and as such belongs in 'Analogue Art', along with SUTs and the like. I don't see this in any way as being hard to understand
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I didn't say it was hard to understand...Originally Posted by Marco
I don't see this in any way as being hard to understand
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"...ya big haggis" "...ya wee zoomeroid" "...you patronising buffoon" "...ya shilly wee shaushage" "... I'll chin ya"
I think we must be into the second set...
This level of philosophical discourse is above my head, so I'll just say thanks Marco for your warnings about mains voltage. Mine did come in a box marked '240V' and the manual says "input voltage AC 240V+or-10%. Nevertheless I'll get inside again and do some checks.
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Oh, don't worry about Marco and I... we love 'crossing keyboards' from time to time.
S'just 'banter'.
Shian7
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Kudakutemo
kudakutemo
ari mizu-no tsuki
Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
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It's a valve phono stage with a CD input built in!
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No worries _ I'm enjoying it!Oh, don't worry about Marco and I... we love 'crossing keyboards' from time to time.
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Jolly good!No worries _ I'm enjoying it!
Anyway... am I right in thinking you bought it primarily for use as a phono stage? If so, I might be able to think of a few little 'tweaks' that might help it along.
Shian7
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kudakutemo
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Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
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