Shill of the Century

[Marco]

The same dealer apparently has 3 Rockport turntables - to have even one would be unprecedented and quite remarkable.

Dat's easy, man! He's a DJ, innit? Uses 'em for scratchin', innit? Simples!

Marco.

[jandl100]

I must admit I wasn't very interested in this sad little saga, and hadn't bothered to look at the pfm thread - then I read this ---->

The same dealer apparently has 3 Rockport turntables - to have even one would be unprecedented and quite remarkable.

3 Rockports.
OMG - that can only be my old mate Mik.

So I checked an old PM from him on the Wam - yup, banned.

I've known the guy off and on for 25 years or more, I guess.
Jeez - that is just so amazingly out of character.

What was he thinking of? - my guess is he was just having a bit of a laugh.

[DSJR]

Jammy dodger REALLY doesn't like dealers. I wonder if he asks for a massive discount on the food or toiletries he buys, since these people make more than most audio dealers on the equipment I fear, although the margins on cables and similar accessories may be similar..

"A hifi dealer like any other dealer is a fukin parasite who thrive's on the Gullable, the Sheep, the Ignorant, the Idiot's the Uneducated etc etc etc.......
A hifi dealer like any other dealer aquires a product at minimum price and attempt's to sell said product for maximum price to the above mentioned.
A hifi dealer like any other dealer folks is scum - the name of their game is RIP-OFF and their target is the above mentioned (G.S.I.I.U.) etc etc etc...
I think people are slowly begining to see this, i feel the tide is slowly turning, let's hope so folk's.
We the educated here at HFS and other's will continue to shine the light, will endevour to expose the hifi industry lowlife in all it's many guise's be it
the Shiller's, the midle men, the trough slurper's, the paid reviwer's, the hifi rag's, the bullshiter's or the dealer's.
Wake up n smell the Rose's folk's."

Back in the 60's and early 70's, people your Dad's age Jammy, entered the HiFi industry for genuine reasons. Not to rip the gullible off, but to share their genuine interest and enthusiasm for music and the means to reproduce it at home. Mis-guided/brainwashed or otherwise, this carried over to the dark UK days of the Linn/Naim dominated 1980's, the "selling" aspect of the job always secondary to the sharing of the belief set - I should know, I was there! The bosses got the bulk of the profit after expenses, not the guys 'on the floor!'

[jandl100]

What, Jammy? My old Subjective forum mucker?

Nah - you need an IQ above 25 to have opinions of your own.
I'm afraid Jammy doesn't make the grade.

Jammy just parrots stuff back from Il Duce Dung.

[DSJR]

You're a naughty boy Jerry, but sometimes, a little perspective is necessary.

There have been some bad dealers out there and anyone starting off now is on a hiding to nothing, the market being what it is. I can think of one not far from my old sh*t kicking ground in bedfordshire, who has a huge and expensive portfolio of gear and running from a very desirable rural location. Guess what, most of his stock is on special offer, his offer list running into pages. Some "new gear/ex-dem" bargains for those who want this stuff and a good saving out of his 30 - 40% margin after taking prompt payment discounts...

Actually, it's some of the mail-order/online manufacturers I'd be most suspicious of. No overheads to speak of, only eBay charges to worry about and still making around a 400% markup on manufacturing costs if I remember from one banned mamber here (you'd have to look up the post concerned when costs were discussed to get precise figures, either here or on PFM, I can't remember). That's far more than any dealer would make on selling equipment rather than cables etc...


Anyway, how many Rockport turntables would have been sold in the UK I wonder?

[YNWaN]

I'm extremely surprised to find there are even three Rockports in the UK and even more surprised to find them all owned by the same person.

The market in the UK for 'high end' gear is very small and also a pretty conservative one. If someone is intending to spend big on an audio component they are rarely willing to look beyond the well known brands.

I can think of one amateur dealer who has taken on a lesser known amplifier brand - I also know that the last two distributors to represent that brand failed to sell any - I see no reason why that should change.

[synsei]

Dave, please don't read this inconsequential nonsense if it upsets you so much. I used to go to HFS just to laugh at what they were writing about me and others but that soon got boring as they keep repeating the same old tune. HFS is the North Korea of the hifi world IMHO.

[jandl100]

Dave, please don't read this inconsequential nonsense if it upsets you so much.

Some folks just cannot help themselves from keeping on squeezing an infected spot to see how much more putrid pus they can get out.

I think that's a very apt analogy for HFS.

[DSJR]

[Canetoad]

"A hifi dealer like any other dealer is a fukin parasite who thrive's on the Gullable, the Sheep, the Ignorant, the Idiot's the Uneducated etc etc etc.......
A hifi dealer like any other dealer aquires a product at minimum price and attempt's to sell said product for maximum price to the above mentioned.
A hifi dealer like any other dealer folks is scum - the name of their game is RIP-OFF and their target is the above mentioned (G.S.I.I.U.) etc etc etc...
I think people are slowly begining to see this, i feel the tide is slowly turning, let's hope so folk's.
We the educated here at HFS and other's will continue to shine the light, will endevour to expose the hifi industry lowlife in all it's many guise's be it
the Shiller's, the midle men, the trough slurper's, the paid reviwer's, the hifi rag's, the bullshiter's or the dealer's.
Wake up n smell the Rose's folk's."

Someone needs to learn how to spell and punctuate.