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  1. 30-03-2013, 09:56 #11
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    I think the term you're looking for, Andre, is 'dished'.

    It's down to a lack of proper quality control, during the vinyl manufacturing process and the use of inferior materials. It's as simple as that. I often encounter the same problem, even with brand new supposedly 'high-quality', 'audiophile' pressings! It does my tits in

    Strangely, NONE of my (many 100s) of late 50s and early-to-mid 60s classical/jazz records are like that, and are 100% FLAT, on nice heavyweight vinyl, as standard...

    I wonder why that is, eh??

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  2. 30-03-2013, 11:29 #12
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    Too much use of recycled vinyl these days, as a necessity.
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  3. 30-03-2013, 11:49 #13
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    And then there's off-centre spindle holes ... What's the good having a TT with good wow figures when the records are swingers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Strangely, NONE of my (many 100s) of late 50s and early-to-mid 60s classical/jazz records are like that, and are 100% FLAT, on nice heavyweight vinyl, as standard...

    I wonder why that is, eh??

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    Because they were made properly. Remember a long-playing record is a precision piece of engineering, and in days gone by, were treated as such by the manufacturers. I wonder now, if the greatest skill of making vinyl records has been 'lost' somewhere along the line.

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  5. 30-03-2013, 19:54 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I think the term you're looking for, Andre, is 'dished'.
    No they arnt dished they are slighly wavey, i get pissed orf paying £20-25 a time for this, returning the record adds on another £4 post out of my pocket.. to be refunded which is yet another loss of your original postage Im over a barrel because to buy an original for most the music i buy your looking at anything from £100-£1K

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  6. 30-03-2013, 20:23 #16
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    Buy a Dynavector arm and you'll never even notice warps ever again
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  7. 30-03-2013, 20:35 #17
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    Well i have a Transcriptor 'Vestigal' arm in a box.. I don't have a problem with the slight waves as i can't hear anything detrimental, i just find it annoying.
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  8. 30-03-2013, 21:11 #18
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    Join the club, dude. Shoddy workmanship always rips my knitting. John was spot-on earlier....

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  9. 31-03-2013, 01:18 #19
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    Vacuum platter or a good record clamp should do the trick
    my 30year old oracle delphi plays even stupidly warped vinyl
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