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    I bought a Logitech Bluetooth device recently, the one I said I might get in my T amp thread, and its a brilliant little device, especially at the reduced price of about £24 instead of £40!

    I currently have it in the dining room set up, but am tempted to get another for the main kit, which leads me to a question........am I likely to lose quality by doing this? I would be mainly streaming Spotify direct from my iPad.
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    As I understand it, Bluetooth has to decompress the digital signal from whatever source you're using then recompresses using a lossy format called SBC (sub band coding) plus is bandwidth limited and even the latest versions of Bluetooth and the associated coding/decoding have limited bandwidth for streaming from say radio sources.

    Its not going to be high rez, high fidelity but you may get acceptable results for general listening/radio etc. There seems to be conflicting information on the net about bluetooth and various manufacturers make various claims about bandwidth and resolution, but BT 3.0 I thought was about the fastest version out there at around 53Mb/s. Not sure if that's not enough though for high fidelity audio broadcasts.

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    Cheers Paul!

    I think I will just enjoy the novelty of it in the dining room then.
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    Chord Electronics have been using Bluetooth connectivity with their DAC range for some years, with excellent results.
    There's no problem transmitting 24/96 files to one of their DACs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Chord Electronics have been using Bluetooth connectivity with their DAC range for some years, with excellent results.
    There's no problem transmitting 24/96 files to one of their DACs.
    That's pretty clever! 24/96 in uncompressed format will eat about 4.3mbps and it appears that the maximum symetrical bandwidth of Bluetooth <v3 is 768kbps. 16bit FLACS run between about 900 and 1100kbps.

    Bluetooth v3 would do it, although interestingly Bluetooth 3 isn't really Bluetooth, it's just a handshaking protocol for a 802 wireless connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothchild View Post
    That's pretty clever! 24/96 in uncompressed format will eat about 4.3mbps and it appears that the maximum symetrical bandwidth of Bluetooth <v3 is 768kbps. 16bit FLACS run between about 900 and 1100kbps.

    Bluetooth v3 would do it, although interestingly Bluetooth 3 isn't really Bluetooth, it's just a handshaking protocol for a 802 wireless connection.
    From what I understand of it they use A2DP, which goes back as far as Bluetooth 1.1 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    From what I understand of it they use A2DP, which goes back as far as Bluetooth 1.1 .
    Looks like A2DP is protocol utilising a lossy codec though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothchild View Post
    Looks like A2DP is protocol utilising a lossy codec though?
    Still sounds great off the Chord DAC, whatever format it's converting to.
    The 24/96 stuff might well have be resampled by the PC doing the playing.
    I can't really say, as it's not my DAC and not my PC.
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