Just received a pair of klotz mc5000 interconnects off Brian of this parish that wee Scots laddy from Glasgow right off the bat they have a fuller sound and tighter bass and more detail than some vdh 102 mk2 I was using and Brian says they take 40 hours to run in my other interconnects sound flatter than a witches tit compared to these klotz got to be one of my best hifi bargain finds well chuffed