Dais 'Heavy'
Dunlop Systemdek
STD 305 (M&S)
Dais 'Heavy'
Dunlop Systemdek
STD 305 (M&S)
Richard.
Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi
Location: Yorks
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Hi Rich
Do you hear much of a difference between the '305S' & '305M'?
Never heard them back to back RB, and admittedly the S was a slightly cheaper version in a moulded plinth I believe (the M was in that rather funky brushed metal job). I did hear a 'D' against a same-era LP12 though and preferred the STD....as I did the PT of its day. The D had the electronic speed control.
STD were another great turntable manufacturer that went to the wall.
Always fancied the Systemdek myself, especially in the rather plush 'suede' finish.
Richard.
Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi
Location: Yorks
Posts: 16,643
I'm Nobody.
STD were superb, their was the rare STD valve amp on Auction only last week.
I had an STD 305S with a Moth (Rega) tonearm and Nagaoka MP-10 for many years. This was my second "proper" deck. Very utilitarian looking (ugly some might say) but bombproof build-quality. Hailed as an LP-12 beater at the time but never broke into the big time. I'd have been interested to hear how good it would be in my current system ...
Sonore Rendu - Cambridge Audio Edge W - Sonus Faber Venere 2.5
At the time, KJ Wigmore St had the LP12, Logic 101, Systemdek, Oracle, Thorens 160 and some traded in Regas which never hung around long....
This was before specialist supports etc and I'm sorry to disappoint you chaps, but the LP12 made more sense of the LP's played in it at the time, even if an Ittok equipped sample of the period was all wrong - most of us didn't know any better..... The Logic was ok, but a bit characterless and adding a spring to keep the sub chassis centred always seemed a bit of a bodge in all honesty. The Systemdek was superb once understood and I feel now that it was a far better turntable than the LP12 pre Cirkus if the original source was to hand for comparison... The Oracle Delphi was magic for all of a fortnight after setup and then it went off big time, two weeks after every time it was re-tweaked!!!!!!
As for the Thorens Td160 with whatever arm, or the Rega 2 or 3 with R200, these were far better musically than a TD160 although I like to kid myself? that I could get better sounds from a Thorens today.
I know this "following a tune" bit is hard for many to take, let alone understand, but the best systems I've ever heard, yes - digital sourced as well - are just so easy to sing along to if the music allows it. Daft I know, but true for me at least...
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Location: Yorks
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tbh Dave the big spring didni make much difference to my ears.
As soon as i first clamped eyes on a 'DM101' i wanted one, i got fed up with the usual suspensions on the other decks id had.. the Logic's triangular alloy plate sat in three spung cradles was a welcoming change, much easier to set up i thought.what can be more easier that three threaded studs adjustable ontop with a simple allen key!. I was a fool to sell mine & still kick myself now.
I've see two turn up on auction recently & both sellers wouldnt post out
Location: glasgow
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oracle delphi ,had mine for 30years old still going strong
Source with an Odyssey RP1, preferably gold plated, ta!
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Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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