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Thread: SAE 1000E or AT-7V or Signet MK5E cartridges or what for £150?

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    Default SAE 1000E or AT-7V or Signet MK5E cartridges or what for £150?

    Hello everyone!

    Can't decide? Has anyone tried any of these carts?

    For around £150 is there anything else better?

    The arm is moderate mass 15g Sony.

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    The Signet VM's didn't come out very well at the time, but that could be a total mismatch with the LVX arm used for testing back then. Obviously, the best part of thirty years should have made them better, but I don't know...

    In addition to the usual Denon/Ortofon suspects, see about a Sumiko Blue Point 2 which was well under £200 as I recall.
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    I do have a DL110 with a broken stylus that I can retip with a Shibata diamond for £100. Will this be worth compared to the other options?

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    If you liked the 110 as supplied, it can only get better with a lower mass cantilever and better tip. I believe the Shibata has been very heavily re-profiled since its original version, so if you don't mind spending the money, it should be a great thing - Good luck
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    It came with the turntable already broken, never got to play it...

    It's that I read all the great things about the SAE 1000E that I am really curious to give it a try, but €200 is a bit right now, so I'm looking for alternatives and opinions.

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    The DL 110 is stock form is a cartridge-for-all in many ways. It does nothing wrong and its sins are of omission more than adding anything to the mix...
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    You can't go wrong with having your DL-110 retipped.
    I'm assuming that it will outperform the (already good) stock one.
    I don't use mine anymore because I have the 103R now, and I prefer it's sound.
    But the 110 came close...
    Should be a perfect match with your arm too.
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    I have the SAE, ( friends borrowing it ATM) he's sold his DL110 in an instant when he'd heard the 1000.

    I found the 110 bright and glitzy by comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiveDeepDog View Post
    I found the 110 bright and glitzy by comparison
    Are you sure you didn't try it in an arm that was too light?
    The 110 likes a fair bit of weight.
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    Everywhere I read, people sold their 10x5 after trying the SAE.
    But possibly it was always the same guy writing in several places...

    No one else tried Signets or SAE or AT-7V?

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