DIY phonostage.

[sq225917]

Alan, as I said the Paradise sounded flat and lifeless on Saturday, that cart should have been up at 600r, not 180ish which was where I had it.

It's fair to say you've not heard what the Paradise does. If you go to Marks you will though....

[Firebottle]

That's fair enough but I don't understand where you are getting 600 ohms from, for a cart with a 4 ohm internal resistance.

[Mickyricky]

We had the Paradise and Nick's Music First stages back to back at one of the NEBOs and as far as I was concerned you could not put a fag paper between them, they were both astonishingly good. Just on another level entirely from everything else. Never mind there being anything better out there, I'd be amazed if it was even possible to make something better.

I'd get that Paradise finished quick-time if I were you

10k v under 2k ! The Paradise must be a real real Billy bargain..Glad I got one 😀

[337alant]

We had the Paradise and Nick's Music First stages back to back at one of the NEBOs and as far as I was concerned you could not put a fag paper between them, they were both astonishingly good. Just on another level entirely from everything else. Never mind there being anything better out there, I'd be amazed if it was even possible to make something better.

Thanks Macca guess that must have been my Paradise Phono and I agree they are very nice, I have improved the power supply since then but still not fitted the calvins, will get round to it soon hopefully

Alan

[sq225917]

Trust me, it needs higher loading and will probably benefit from a couple of 'n' to widen the Q.

[mac72]

Not sure what cart was used but if Paradise sounded flat an lifeless there must have been something awfully wrong with the setup . In my setup I had to tame "liveliness" by going with different RIAA values , Paradise when the material is right keeps you on the edge of the seat but at the same time with different music could be very subtle .
I heard(owned) several phonostages and closest to Pardise was Trilogy 907 , probably not exactly there but could live with if I had to .
I'd love to hear Alan's phono but distance seems to be an issue , shame

[Macca]

Thanks Macca guess that must have been my Paradise Phono and I agree they are very nice, I have improved the power supply since then but still not fitted the calvins, will get round to it soon hopefully

Alan

Yes it was your one, Alan. The first time I heard that was the NEBO previous where it was being used with Ken's concrete Techy, your Avondale amps and the Celestion 66 speakers.

I recall someone put on some Kansas, which isn't my sort of thing, but there was a bit where the four of them are harmonising and the soundstage was truly holographic, like they were stood there in 3 dimensions between the speakers. Jaw dropping moment for me. I did not think a vinyl record could achieve that to that level of perfection.

[DiveDeepDog]

Not sure what cart was used but if Paradise sounded flat an lifeless there must have been something awfully wrong with the setup . In my setup I had to tame "liveliness" by going with different RIAA values , Paradise when the material is right keeps you on the edge of the seat but at the same time with different music could be very subtle .
I heard(owned) several phonostages and closest to Pardise was Trilogy 907 , probably not exactly there but could live with if I had to .
I'd love to hear Alan's phono but distance seems to be an issue , shame

Oh how our ears are different ! I've boxed the Paradise with Trichord, 907 in the Naim/Edwards camp for PRAT and liveliness.

Needless to say Paradise is the best I've heard, but I don't think I'm getting the best out of AT37, 3ohm internal impedance. Keeping an eye on solutions

[mac72]

I wouldn't recommend deviating from the RIAA spec. Something somewhere must be very wrong if you have to do that.

Paradise's RIAA isn't flat , in my version I matched RIAA to within 0.1dB

[struth]

one man's chalk is another's cheese