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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieB View Post
    I wish governments would work out that these false markets don't work. I have nothing against competition - but it is only one of a number of solutions to a problem.

    Artificially creating a market doesn't work. There is one water mains network, one telephone network, one electricity supply network, and one gas supply network. It does not make sense to trying to add competition to these markets because a supplier isn't going to offer an alternative product - its the same service delivered over the same medium.

    If alternative products can be delivered independently by a number of suppliers - then a competitive market makes sense and should be encouraged (and regulated to avoid dominance by cartels or monopolies). Where this isn't the case, then don't create artificial markets and pretend that the result is a competitive market place.
    You're absolutely right - except for the telephone network!!!



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    People who come on my TV and talk about existential threats, existential anything in fact, it just sounds completely twattish and pretentious.

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    Cynical companies advertising bloody 'funeral plans' on the box all bleedin' day!! There's loads of these adverts.
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    they are a waste of money to 99% of folk as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Cynical companies advertising bloody 'funeral plans' on the box all bleedin' day!! There's loads of these adverts.
    And PPI crap, and 'were you involved in an accident' crap, and bazillion percent payday loan ads, and and and...


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    I really hate what is passed for democracy and free market these days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by M6NTL View Post
    You're absolutely right - except for the telephone network!!!
    I was talking about landlines. The vast majority of these are provided by BT (or whichever incarnation of BT it is that is currently pretending it's not BT). BT sell access to the lines via wholesale packages. If you have a BT line, all the providers who offer you deals are just reselling one of these BT wholesale packages.

    However, mobile is worth discussing. Does it really make sense to have multiple suppliers providing the same service. Why should it depend on which provider I use, as to whether I get a good signal in my home. Also competition tends to lead to less populated areas getting poor coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimkasta View Post
    I really hate what is passed for democracy and free market these days...
    free market ..... free to be dominated by a small number of large multinationals
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieB View Post
    I was talking about landlines. The vast majority of these are provided by BT (or whichever incarnation of BT it is that is currently pretending it's not BT). BT sell access to the lines via wholesale packages. If you have a BT line, all the providers who offer you deals are just reselling one of these BT wholesale packages.

    However, mobile is worth discussing. Does it really make sense to have multiple suppliers providing the same service. Why should it depend on which provider I use, as to whether I get a good signal in my home. Also competition tends to lead to less populated areas getting poor coverage.
    Not so. The Cable TV companies (of which there were MANY back in the '90s, all now are regional parts of Virgin Media) have an entirely separate network to BT. I worked for BT for 12 years from 1980 to 1992, then moved to (what was LCL Cable in Leicester), where I installed and commissioned a brand new fibre optic transmission network while my colleagues commissioned a brand new telephone exchange (switch).
    Up and down the country these networks are all joined together, and all join BT at numerous locations.
    There is absolutely no shared infrastructure, no shared cabling etc from the exchange to the customer's house/business.

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    Media professionals who can't spell. There have been a couple of instances of unexploded WW2 bombs being found lately and on each occasion these have been reported as apparently being 'diffused'. Why can't these people get it into their heads that the word is defused! Dozy bastards!!
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