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Indeed. The poet Robert Browning used the word 'twat' in a poem because he mistakenly thought it meant a sort of hat worn by nuns. This being Victorian times, however, everyone was far too polite/embarrassed to point out the mistake, so there the word is, in his poem 'Pippa Passes'.
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Interesting! I didn't know that. I heard one person say "doesn't it mean a pregnant goldfish"? Ugh!
David Cameron of course, famously, used the word and was rightly condemned and forced to make an abject apology.
I just don't see the need for such obscene words ("intensifiers") in a public forum which may be read by one's daughters, nieces, wives or mothers.(Men are often equally offended.)
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I'm easily offended if language gets naughty. The c word is a no no for me. I worked on building sites but this isn't one
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Hi Richard,
As Macca says, we've no specific rules here on language, although of course if someone is seemingly incapable of communicating without the use of profanity, then that would be dealt with and prevented.
In this instance, as it was an isolated incident, all I can do is ask Jamie to bear in mind that some folks may be offended by the word in question, and to consider that fact in future. He's a friendly and considerate chap, whom I'm sure wouldn't wish to deliberately upset anyone
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Here's chapter (and verse!) from yer Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Passes#"A_distressing_blunder"
"A distressing blunder"
Besides the oft-quoted line "God's in his Heaven/All's right with the world!" above, the poem contains an error rooted in Robert Browning's unfamiliarity with vulgar slang. Right at the end of the poem, in her closing song, Pippa calls out the following:
But at night, brother Howlet, far over the woods,
Toll the world to thy chantry;
Sing to the bats’ sleek sisterhoods
Full complines with gallantry:
Then, owls and bats, cowls and twats,
Monks and nuns, in a cloister’s moods,
Adjourn to the oak-stump pantry!
"Twat" both then and now is vulgar slang for a woman's external genitals. It has become a relatively mild epithet in parts of the UK, but vulgar elsewhere. When the editors of the Oxford English Dictionary enquired decades later where Browning had picked up the word, he directed them to a rhyme from 1660 that went thus: "They talk't of his having a Cardinall's Hat/They'd send him as soon an Old Nun's Twat."[2] Browning apparently missed the vulgar joke and took "twat" to mean part of a nun's habit, pairing it in his poem with a priest's cowl.[3][4] The mistake was pointed out by H. W. Fay in 1888.[5]'