Why you must buy a SUT, Step Up Transformer

[hifi_dave]

I agree, Dave, but you have to remember that Mike's using a Naim 500 power amp.

Marco.

I know.

If the concerns are using a NAP 500 with anything other than a Naim pre, then he's already got the system sorted with his present arrangement. However, over the years I have sold many different pre's with Naim power-amps, with no probs.

It's a bit more problemmatical using a Naim pre with other power-amps but even this can be accomplished.

[MikeMusic]

I know.

If the concerns are using a NAP 500 with anything other than a Naim pre, then he's already got the system sorted with his present arrangement. However, over the years I have sold many different pre's with Naim power-amps, with no probs.

It's a bit more problemmatical using a Naim pre with other power-amps but even this can be accomplished.

How is this done, broadly if a complicated answer ?
Is it simple and *not* going to add boxes, work arounds, tweaks and

[Marco]

If the concerns are using a NAP 500 with anything other than a Naim pre, then he's already got the system sorted with his present arrangement. However, over the years I have sold many different pre's with Naim power-amps, with no probs.

You've probably experimented more in that area than I have, so I'll bow to your greater experience, but whenever I've tried it, I've never been happy with the results of using a non-Naim preamp with a Naim power amp, or vice versa, providing one wants to hear what the likes of a NAP 500 can do, when used in its intended sonic environment.

The only Naim components I've had consistent success with using outside of Naim systems, is their CD players, which are superb and can easily slot into many other types of high-quality systems, as indeed is the case with those from Rega.

However, I'm not saying that Naim preamps or power amps can't be bettered - far from it - otherwise I'd still be using my old Naim system, without having moved on considerably from it with the system I've got now!

My advice to Mike would be not to make any changes to the heart of his system until I've visited him and brought down my modded Croft preamp, which we can then try with his NAP500, and he can judge the results for himself. Trust me, if that doen't work with his power amp, and considerably improve on his current preamp, then I doubt that any other Croft preamp will.

Mike, I'm hoping to get down to your place sometime early next month

Marco.

[MikeMusic]

You've probably experimented more in that area than I have, so I'll bow to your greater experience, but whenever I've tried it, I've never been happy with the results of using a non-Naim preamp with a Naim power amp, or vice versa, providing one wants to hear what the likes of a NAP 500 can do, when used in its intended sonic environment.

The only Naim components I've had consistent success with using outside of Naim systems, is their CD players, which are superb and can easily slot into many other types of high-quality systems, as indeed is the case with those from Rega.

However, I'm not saying that Naim preamps or power amps can't be bettered - far from it - otherwise I'd still be using my old Naim system, without having moved on considerably from it with the system I've got now!

My advice to Mike would be not to make any changes to the heart of his system until I've visited him and brought down my modded Croft preamp, which we can then try with his NAP500, and he can judge the results for himself. Trust me, if that doen't work with his power amp, and considerably improve on his current preamp, then I doubt that any other Croft preamp will.

Mike, I'm hoping to get down to your place sometime early next month

Marco.

Delighted to try out the Croft here
The SUT is likely to keep me very happy for a month

[realysm42]

Lol you've been on a right gear mission as of late, bet everything's sounding considerably better than say 2 months ago?

[MikeMusic]

Lol you've been on a right gear mission as of late, bet everything's sounding considerably better than say 2 months ago?

Serpently have

Give me a problem and I start looking for a fix !

I have had some very nice improvements and this has topped the lot.

I blame the bigger boys Marco and Martin for leading me astray


and this started with the Karma/LP12 problems and the 'reassuringly expensive' fix suggest by Infedility

I started on the new bike trail when I had to replace a broken mudguard......

[hifi_dave]

How is this done, broadly if a complicated answer ?
Is it simple and *not* going to add boxes, work arounds, tweaks and

With the appropriate incons, you can use a Croft with the NAP 500.

[Magna Audio]

Nice SUT, I think that once you hear what that SUT can do into a really nice valve MM Phono stage, into a really nice valve Preamp, there really would be no going back

[Marco]

Hi Steve,

Don't I know it, mate!

But it has to be done right....

Nice to see you posting here again. Hope life is treating Maria and you well... Still loving my ebony armboard!!

Marco.

[Magna Audio]

Cool - Been busy with work and other, er, um internet sites

Course added SPU'ness would be good to the above Xmas list too