Jelco SA750D tonearm is it that good ?

[Spectral Morn]

Ron, may I dive in here?

By using an Ekos, in whatever state of tune, on a techie, and irrespective of the cartridge, you may just be on a recipe for disaster if the mounting plate is a metal one. The Ittok/Ekos arms ring at high frequencies to a greater or lesser extent and a direct coupling to an aluminium arm-plate botled tightly to the plinth *may not* be the best way for sonic bliss with these arms - just my thoughts obviously. I personally wouldn't use these two together based on instinct..... Oh alright, I was forgetting the Keel and Rubykon with the LP12 being solid aluminium but whether these would work with the cast top plates now being marketed for what's left of the original fruitbox is anyone's guess

OC9? Whatever posessed you sir? After a Koetsu Black, any AT moving coil is going to sound astringent to a degree - and this into Naim and SBL's too? Blimey, your lugs must be nearly as bad as mine Much as I like the crisp AT's in the right system, I'm really not sure about this one chez Jazzbones myself

I think the 750D is a great value tonearm, bearing in mind the stupid prices asked for anything regarded as "top end..." these days. Once you have it back from Johnnie (I hope the re-wire was worth the trouble as I doubt the supplied wires are that bad to start with). Hugo's mounting base is a must judging by all the comments and I'd probably look for a hard-wood arm-board, as well as a suitable headshell, which seems essential for best performance of these types of tonearm.

Not so the AT 33 EV, it has an even handed tonality with no forwardness or brightness which is a characteristic of many of the other AT carts; though it has to said that the new examples are more even handed than those I heard from the early 90's

[JazzBones]

Ron, may I dive in here?

By using an Ekos, in whatever state of tune, on a techie, and irrespective of the cartridge, you may just be on a recipe for disaster if the mounting plate is a metal one. The Ittok/Ekos arms ring at high frequencies to a greater or lesser extent and a direct coupling to an aluminium arm-plate botled tightly to the plinth *may not* be the best way for sonic bliss with these arms - just my thoughts obviously. I personally wouldn't use these two together based on instinct..... Oh alright, I was forgetting the Keel and Rubykon with the LP12 being solid aluminium but whether these would work with the cast top plates now being marketed for what's left of the original fruitbox is anyone's guess

OC9? Whatever posessed you sir? After a Koetsu Black, any AT moving coil is going to sound astringent to a degree - and this into Naim and SBL's too? Blimey, your lugs must be nearly as bad as mine Much as I like the crisp AT's in the right system, I'm really not sure about this one chez Jazzbones myself

I think the 750D is a great value tonearm, bearing in mind the stupid prices asked for anything regarded as "top end..." these days. Once you have it back from Johnnie (I hope the re-wire was worth the trouble as I doubt the supplied wires are that bad to start with). Hugo's mounting base is a must judging by all the comments and I'd probably look for a hard-wood arm-board, as well as a suitable headshell, which seems essential for best performance of these types of tonearm.

Dave me old mate, the Ekos is wedded to a Speedy Steve's ebony wood arm plate, I made sure that my Ekos would not go on metal to metal. My Jelco will also go on the same ebony arm board plus Koetsu. The Ekos (AO) will go back on my Linn plus AT cartridge where it is better suited methinks

Believe me, I've tuned my Naims (Avondale) so they sound so sweet through my SBLS which once belonged to Julian Vereker... a pair of Townshend super tweeters calms everything down believe it or not. I'm going to borrow a pair of LW's speaker cables for the Naims as I've heard good reports... he's also done a new cross over for the SBLs... interesting.

Cheers
Ron

[JazzBones]

Not so the AT 33 EV, it has an even handed tonality with no forwardness or brightness which is a characteristic of many of the other AT carts; though it has to said that the new examples are more even handed than those I heard from the early 90's

Hi there Neil, I think that David Price, in answer to a reader's question, said that the AT33EV leaned towards a Koetsu style sound, at the back of my mind I considered buying an AT33EV but it was cheaper to have my Koetsu overhauled by Expert Stylus Co., he can't do the job until November, he's that booked out!

Whilst you might be reading this Neil, howz the comparison PSU for the Tech going, I'm hanging around waiting to see if I should move from my TS HE which is a great little unit and won't short out your PCB Erm, it is you carrying out the comparisons isn't it?

Ron

[DSJR]

Dave me old mate, the Ekos is wedded to a Speedy Steve's ebony wood arm plate, I made sure that my Ekos would not go on metal to metal. My Jelco will also go on the same ebony arm board plus Koetsu. The Ekos (AO) will go back on my Linn plus AT cartridge where it is better suited methinks

Believe me, I've tuned my Naims (Avondale) so they sound so sweet through my SBLS which once belonged to Julian Vereker... a pair of Townshend super tweeters calms everything down believe it or not. I'm going to borrow a pair of LW's speaker cables for the Naims as I've heard good reports... he's also done a new cross over for the SBLs... interesting.

Cheers
Ron

I remember your system years ago sounded the best I'd then heard passive SBL's and it was only the later bass drivers that helped others in livelier situations.

TQ cables with older Naim amps may be alright, but the bubble is expanding quite fast and my money at this moment would be on stalwarts like the VDH Wind myself, which despite any fancy internal strands, has a superior gauge of conductor in each connector. I worry that a new cable is SO superior as to make all that went before redundant, if you know what I mean. Either the listener has gone hyper-tuned over it, or the cable is doing summat it shouldn't - IMO.....

[Marco]

I worry that a new cable is SO superior as to make all that went before redundant, if you know what I mean. Either the listener has gone hyper-tuned over it, or the cable is doing summat it shouldn't - IMO.....

Marco.

[Barry]

This might be of interest to all parties. You can then decide how close the Jelco- made Koetsu arm is to the 750D.

[MartinT]

Ron - just one point. The supplied arm cable for Jelcos is the red Neglex (I had one on my SA-250ST) and leaves a lot to be desired. You can do a lot better by ordering a Greek Yannis cable for your 750D. It won't break the bank.

[JazzBones]

Ron - just one point. The supplied arm cable for Jelcos is the red Neglex (I had one on my SA-250ST) and leaves a lot to be desired. You can do a lot better by ordering a Greek Yannis cable for your 750D. It won't break the bank.

Hi there Martin, I never used the Neglex arm cable I got when I bought the Jelco, which is still brand virginal new in its packaging somewhere in the loft; must find it and flog it, but thanks for the info. I'm currently using the superb arm cable from J7 of Audio Origami (van Damme?) which is good but my interest in the Yannis cable has just kicked in... know if it will work with Naim pre-amp???

Hi Barry, that Koetsu arm looks a beauty but is it looks only... anyone know differently, I would still like one

DaveO, sometime back I was told the VD 'The Wind' speaker cable was the dingo's danglies with Naim power amps but this was a long time ago and pre-dates me beard which I'm now off to trim!

Thanks all and keep the info a comin'

Ron

[MartinT]

know if it will work with Naim pre-amp???

No idea, Ron. Some have phonos and some DIN connectors and it should work if you get the right connector but I am not a Naim specialist.

[DSJR]

The Van Damme is a worthy but dirt cheap cable in all honesty and I rate it highly for general arm-exit duties. Johnnie does his nice right-angle plug on the end and this works a treat I think, especially with suspended chassis decks like the TD125 I used with the R200 and AO cable.

Hopefully, the better ones recommended here will sound like the Van Damme, but "better," if you see what I mean


P.S. Did you know me during the time I wore a full beard? Was accused of hiding behind it so took it off. Now encouraged to grow a goatee, so should suit this crabby old Capricorn