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    Recently had some speaker jumpers made up for me - QED Genesis Silver Spiral. I have the Silver Spiral single run speaker cable and it is great. Anyway, as a result I decided that things could only get better if I removed the stock links from my beloved Mission 752 Freedoms and replaced them with the same stuf as jumpers which I did yesterday. They were made with bare wire ends by the guy I bought the speaker cable from. I've had two days listening, just to be sure and couldn't believe the effect. Basically, the music became ploddy / laboured, boogie factor gone from my system . Today I decided enough was enough and went back to the stock links - Well guess what, immediate return of sweet rythmic timing / A1 boogie factor, no labouring, system grooving and sounding as musical as you like
    Ok, The ends of the jumpers were a little short on bare wire (have you ever tried strippin the abundance of strands on these things down to bare wire I know the guy who did them for me found it a complete ball ache) but I still managed to get a tight bind onto the posts, in fact my fingers proper hurt afterwards. Just wondered what you guys thought about this and why I experienced such an awful result ??
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    I've always bi-wired any speakers with 2 sets of terminals. This always gives an improvement over the brass links, the amount of immprovemet seems to depend on the speaker in qustion. With your QED jumpers I would have expected the opposite from what you experienced i.e less ploddy bass, clearer highs. Suggest you have a go at bi-wiring if you have spare cable - some say it makes no difference but there are technical reasons why it does (which go over my head) but something to do with altering the load that the amp 'sees' at it's end.
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    I bought some QED SSpiral and had to reterminate the lot! A real pain in the arse. I found that the cable took a long to come on song (2.5m lengths) I am not sure if this woiuld apply to a short length as well. Strange.
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    Robert, I would hazard a guess that you are the only person on this forum who found the supplied links better than the ones you had made.....

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    Hi Craig, I think the fact they were pretty makeshift, (The guy who did them for me struggled with the stripping of the tiny strands) so basically there was very little of the bare wire at the ends to get a goodly amount around the binding posts. The little that I did get was binded very tight but the cables were short, tight and strained if you know what I mean. I think this just meant the signal was struggling too. My guess is if i got some of these http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-gene...rs-p-5716.html which are done properly I would have had a far better result - One day when funds permit .

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    Have your Mission terminals got a hole drilled through the shaft ? If so, you can thread the jumpers through to make a more secure termination.

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    Hi Dave, Yeah I did that but was still a crap, stiff, strained connection due to the very limited amount of bare wire on the ends. In fact the bare wire on the ends was more a short stub with the firmness of the plastic jacket in the way / well close. Thinking about it I should have just spent the extra and got the properly done ones, a waste of £30odd quid really but to be honest we all know thats' hifi, not life and death so I just through it

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    Robert, if your main speaker cable isn't terminated, and there is a few inches spare, Just strip a couple of inches back, and thread it through the binding posts, dead easy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by icehockeyboy View Post
    Robert, if your main speaker cable isn't terminated, and there is a few inches spare, Just strip a couple of inches back, and thread it through the binding posts, dead easy !
    Hi Craig, 'tis terminated with qed airlocks. I'll probably go with the proper shop ready spaded jobbies as per previous link at some point but in no hurry whatsoever as system sounding lovely currently and I'm so enjoying the music it's making. I'd will do it just for curiousity though and to see

    Actually editing now as I've remembered that I do have bare wire at the amp end but trust me there is no way I'm even gonna think about trying to strip back all those tiny (and I mean lots of tiny) strands - I'd rather put needles in my eyes (Well almost) lol
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    Burning off plastic wire surround with a gas powered soldering iron does a good job.
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