ICE v Tripath

**aquapiranha** · 13-01-2009, 09:05

Originally Posted by Dave Cawley

Steve

You need to read the whole article, Martin did a hole shed load of listening, call me after you read the whole article?

Dave

Hi Dave,

I do not doubt for a second that Martin did a thorough review including extended listening. I have not had time to read the entire article though I will try to today. Let's face it though, there are many things in this business that do not measure well (most valve amps being one!) yet they bring musical enjoyment to many!

I will have a read, thanks dave.

**Dave Cawley** · 13-01-2009, 09:10

OK! But Martin does listen, and listens very well indeed. It's perception, I think valve amps measure very well indeed! High dynamic range, little transient intermodulation distortion, low noise, and more important than everything, hardly any 3rd harmonic distortion.

Dave

**jonners** · 13-01-2009, 09:28

Originally Posted by aquapiranha

Me neither! it is a good job I prefer to listen to music and not listen to my hifi via an oscilloscope !

Hear hear!

**aquapiranha** · 13-01-2009, 09:33

I have very quickly skimmed over the condensed version, and unless I am mistaken I would say martin has some kind of axe to grind here! it seems almost too scathing to be anything else! perhaps if they had a naim badge on the front he would have been more forgiving? hmmm.... who knows? the only way to be sure is to try one.

**jonners** · 13-01-2009, 09:36

Originally Posted by aquapiranha

I have very quickly skimmed over the condensed version, and unless I am mistaken I would say martin has some kind of axe to grind here! .

He does seem to tar all class D amps with the same brush. The design of the Hypex amps actually avoids many of the Colloms 'bad behaviours'.

John

**Dave Cawley** · 13-01-2009, 10:17

Guys, you need to read the full version, otherwise you are clutching at straws! But then I did say this earlier, so I suppose it's down to believing what you want to believe? No one likes their beliefs criticised.

Dave

**Marco** · 13-01-2009, 10:28

No one likes their beliefs criticised.

That's an interesting one, Dave. I think you're absolutely right, although I've never suffered from that particular affliction myself, providing the criticism is warranted and constructive.

I find that retaining an open-mind and thus always being receptive to new ideas/ways of thinking helps enormously in that respect

Beliefs, as far as I'm concerned, can (and should) if necessary be reviewed and updated at any time, with hi-fi or anything else...!

Marco.

**aquapiranha** · 13-01-2009, 10:33

Originally Posted by Dave Cawley

Guys, you need to read the full version, otherwise you are clutching at straws! But then I did say this earlier, so I suppose it's down to believing what you want to believe? No one likes their beliefs criticised.

Dave

Yes, you are correct, that is why I intend to read the article and possibly try one of the Hypex units myself. Just because mr. colloms has an issue with that type of amp, does not mean I will have the same views! but I cannot have any valid opinions until I have at least given them a go.

**Marco** · 13-01-2009, 11:04

but I cannot have any valid opinions until I have at least given them a go...

That's exactly the right attitude, Steve

If only more people in this hobby of ours were able to think for themselves and not solely be influenced by what's written in magazines and such like then the hi-fi scene would be in a much better state than it currently is!

Marco.

**SamJones** · 13-01-2009, 17:04

I could not take that article seriously. It reads like a party political script.

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