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    Those moments in life where one has a complete audio revelation are sadly rare but over the last year I have had such an experience from some kit that was left in for me to hear by one of my customers. Now one thing when working in the trade that most live in fear off, is the customer who says he has found or designed gear. The problem comes when you have to tell him/rarely her that their precious is not very good or even dangerous. This happened to me early this year when a customer, now a friend, told me about some amps he had found in New Zealand. The story goes that he was walking down the street and heard a fabulous sound coming out of a record shop. after a conversation with the shop keeper he had learned about a repair guy who makes his own valve kit.
    My friend went to this guys workshop and a relationship both with him and his designs was born. He calls his designs Ecofan Sound and he is based in Auckland.
    ( www.ecofansound.com ) Murray Dick makes a small range of products, all valve and ranging from low power single ended to high power push pull and a Pre-amp with built in phono stage. Ecofan has also introduced a Tube buffer and a Boost it. I have heard the Tube Buffer, but as it is new and not run in, I will not comment on it at this stage.

    The items I am reviewing are the active two input, 6SN7,6N7 pre-amp and the 5 Watt 6A3 valve power amp. The power amp is class A and does run quite hot. It is very compact ( 10 x 8 x 6 inch's tall (Transformers) and ways a ton for its size ( if you ever wondered what a crushed car might weigh, this is a good indicator). Fit and finish are good but very plain and there is a retro feel to things. If you want bling look elsewhere. The pre -amp is a two input, two output design with the valves mounted on the outside of the very compact case ( 4.5 w X 3.5 h X 8 d inch's) . switches are very retro flick types and the action in use is very solid. The volume control is very smooth and easy to set, with gain over the whole range not just the first quarter; everything is manual, no remotes here. All mains leads are fixed, so it would seem that Murray does not believe in after market power cords. I did not see the packaging or instructions and during the times I have used these products I have had no issues. All worked flawlessly every time used. Internal construction is hard wired, parts quality is good, and is neat but cramped due to the compact nature of the designs.

    The 6A3 is a double plate triode with a 6.3 volt filament, pictures of these at (www.tubeworld.com/6a3.htm ). During the course of this review I also tried a number of 6A3 valves. These included Vt 52 by Western Electric. 6A3's by Rca, Tung-Sol, Cunningham and Raytheon. The best sound in my system was achieved with the Raytheon, with the Cunningham's next in quality. The others just sounded thin or overly warm and lacked the gain of the Raytheon 6A3's. These valves are similar to the 6b4G but are a 4 pin design to the 8 pins of the 6B4G and thus can't be substituted. It may be in your system/application that one of these other valve makes may sound better so feel free to try.

    The System used was as follows. Marantz CD 7 ( on a Project wall shelf with a Clear light Audio Isolation board, Mains lead was a TCI Boa Constrictor.) Ref 3A Dulcete Speakers on Attacama R 724 stands with 4 inch granite slabs supported via Michell Tender Feet. The Amps sat on a Mana Reference frame and Base 02 isolation platform. Speaker cable was XLO Type 6 and interconnects Audience Au 24 rca-rca 1m. There were no mains filters or regenerators used, and the room is 7 foot deep x 8 and a half foot high x11 foot long.

    Music used was Rickie Lee Jones - Magazine, track 4 It must be love. Nitin Sawhney - Beyond Skin, track 1 Broken skin,track 2 Letting go and track 5 Tides. I also used The Dali Demo disc, track 3 by Hugh Masekala The coal train.

    Murray Dick is a no BS kind of guy and while I have never met him, he reminds me of Roger A Modjeski of Music Reference in the United States (www.ramlabs-musicreference.com/), he also is a no BS kind of guy. I have a Music Reference Rm 200 amp which is a 100 watt KT66 valve amp with a solid state input, fabulous sound. Having read Roger's site and communicated with him via e-mail I feel he and Murray are cut from very similar cloth, but have their own unique views as well. Roger is another rare thing in audio a no compromise designer who values the end user more than many others. Read about him on his site, its a good read. Murray believes in no positive or negative feedback and no caps in the signal path (direct coupled), except for the bypassed bypass ones on the power tubes cathodes. He also believes in maintaining correct phase through out. He states that not to do this "Decreases the thereness of the sound " Ecofan make their own transformers in house and I believe Murray winds them himself. The transformer are very large for the physical size of the amps and much of what they do is down to these quality output and power transformers.

    The Amps were allowed to warm up for about an hour before listening began but sounded good after about 30 mins. Being a class A design the power amp runs very hot and good ventilation must be given to it.

    I could give you a blow by blow account of how each track sounds but I don't feel its absolutely necessary, so I will give you the salient points. These Amps posses a clarity and purity I have never heard before. I know that single ended does this and I have heard many such amps before. However I have never experienced this degree of purity. When lent these amps before my friend asked what I thought. I responded by telling him that " He had ruined me ". For a few thousand pounds these out performed all my other amplification, much of it well regarded (most of it up to 5 times the price ). Bass was deep and extended and a very wide screen sound stage hung between the speakers. They disappeared leaving just the music and wow what sweet music. I was constantly amazed at how the sound was so effortless, responding to each change with total ease (and this with speakers that while suiting the room perhaps are not the best choice for these amps. What would bigger more sensitive ones sound like ?). Constantly I was blown away by how well percussion was reproduced. Cymbals had air and shimmer and very real decay, even multi layered tracks still allowed space for this type of decay. This Pre-power combination managed to make every type of music sound both beautiful, delicate and yet powerful the degree of frequency coherence was like nothing else I have ever heard (so far ).

    The Hugh Masekela track a South African Song of sorrow ,Stimela ( The Coal train ) has everything bar the kitchen sink in it. Guitar, keyboards, Sax, Trumpet, percussion and drums and the very soulful voice of the lead singer ? On the liner notes for the cd and I quote " The band groves like there is no tomorrow and the laid back performance forces the listener to ask;How can anything so laid back and yet so tight at the same time ?" This is one of the best live recordings I have. It was like being there. every part of the performance hung in space. The fabulous musicianship both moving and breathtaking. The swings in dynamics tracked with ease, never once did the sound waver. When the ten minutes had passed I just wanted to immerse myself once again in this music. Sumptuous.

    If there was any negative compared to the experience I achieve in my other system, it was a slight lack of weight and scale. However as I have already hinted a bigger room and more sensitive speakers would give that extra bit more. In the small room I was using for this review, I don't see how the sound could have been any better.

    I consider myself to be very blessed to have heard this set up and as Murray refuses to play the audio game (direct selling, bespoke construction) only a very few will have that pleasure. No magazine would review this kit because of the craftsman nature of Murray's business model, small production runs and mostly to order only. I wanted to share this Ecofan Sound with you because I feel Murray is one of those rare exceptions in audio life a true gifted genius who refuses to compromise on his vision. Pure commercialism at worst destroys this, at best it forces compromises which rob many designs of their true potential.

    I award (In my system 9 out of 10 ) I don't know if a 10 exists but this is as close as I have got. Someday I want to hear these on the end of bigger speakers. The degree of valve rush with the speakers and Raytheon valves was good but not silent so very high sensitivity horns may not be suitable (however the other tubes tried did have varying degrees of noise and some were more silent than these, but did not sound as good, in my system.) I think these amps are worth a punt especially at such a low cost, even with the joke the pound had become recently. This is at the end of the day, the most amazing factor in this, the very low cost for so much sound WOW ! Your right Murray it is like being there, and your entry level kit has got me more there than anything else Thank You.

    Thanks to Francis for the loan once again. When I am back in work I will be buying these.

    Photos to follow when I work out how to do it HELP ?

    Regards D S D L ----- Neil









    For those interested, a link to Ecofan's website http://www.ecofansound.com/


    Edit... No part of this review may be reproduced without written permission...content and photos are copyright of NK.
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    Nice review
    Thanks for sharing Neil
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    Good work Neil, I'll have a proper read through later. Sorry you had trouble losing your work half way through! It's always an idea to write long posts in notepad and then cut and paste it into the reply box, that way you still have your work if there's some problem with the system logging you off or going wobbly.

    You can post pictures via the 'attachments' bit of the Advanced Reply bit. They then appear as thumbnails at the bottom of your post. If you want them to appear in your text you need webspace, or tell me where to put them and I'll sort it out for you.

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    Default Hi Beachwoods

    Thank you to you and John for your kind comments. Yes I lost the lot. It is at times like this that I realize just how challenged I am when it comes to PC use.

    If I can't (with my wifes help get the photos up) I will take you up on your offer.

    While Ecofan is not available in the shops I just had to share this amazing experience that I have had with them over the last year or so. Francis brought the amps back to me a few weeks ago to cheer me up after he heard about the job situation. Bit of a double edged sword as I can't afford to buy them. But they will be mine, oh yes they will . Francis also has a set of Ecofan mono blocks as well I can't wait to try them too. when the tube buffer is run in I will comment on it as well. Those are available from stock I think. We bit like what Musical Fidelity did a few years ago in the X 10D but will be better. I have one of those so I can compare them.

    Sadly about an hour ago Francis came for his Ecofan amps, as he left a tear rolled down my cheek. I took a few more photos. Very hard to take good pictures of small black boxes. Jan early hes going to bring the Ecofan 2A3 mono blocks for me to try. Review to follow.

    Thank You

    D S D L --- Neil
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    Hi Guys Photos now in post. Above ^

    Thanks to Ian a friend who does all this as a living. He says its easy but as I watched him I just got lost and confused.

    Regards D S D L ----- Neil
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    Ooh!....

    Pretty pictures, me likes!
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    Fantastic pics! Very cool... I can NEVER get the low light ones to come out like that!
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    Default Hi Beechwoods

    Very easy, just set up on a stable platform and use a night time mode. My camera is a Panasonic DMc-FX01. The mode is called Night Scenery. Stability is the key. I also have some nice pictures of my Music Reference RM 200 in the dark. Amp with light ash sides on the bottom of the Mana stand in first photo.

    I have now cured my log out problems ( I hope, so far so good ) Ian sorted it out for me. Once again thanks for the help Ian.

    thanks for the nice comments.

    regards D S D L---- Neil
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    Hi i am the owner of these amps ,I have had in depth conversations with the engineer of Ecofan Murray Dick,this 10 years he is trying to learn two young enthuasists to help ,so he can drink more whiskey
    I will give roughly for now some of the products he does
    Valve phono stage solidstate or valve rectified
    Moving coil step up
    Valve line stage solidstate or valve rectified
    6a3 valve power amp single ended 5w
    6550 valve mono blocks single ended 50w
    6080 valve otl monoblocks single ended 15 w
    I will write loads more but my articles time out so all for now

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    If these are new products I would be interested in distributing them in the UK. And in return offer concessions to registered Art Of Sound members!

    Thanks

    Dave

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