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  1. #2541
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    Interesting.
    Was that in both DAC-only (fixed output) and DAC-preamp modes?

    Expecting both a great DAC and a great preamp in a £100 box does seem to be pushing your luck a bit far!
    it was in Pre amp mode, I'm not dissing the XS, it was great for the money just didn't suit my needs at the time, I nearly bought another last week until I saw user211's post about the distortion which reminded me why I didn't want one

    Great little DAC and not bad as a pre as long as you didn't drive it hard, for around a 100 quid it's brilliant

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    Was just wondering if the distortion is present because CD type levels, of 2 volts or over, were/are being fed in in pre mode.
    Could well be sending the op-amps to their supply rails, hence the distortion. I don't know what the gain is set for in the circuit.
    Firebottle - for the no bottleneck approach.

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    3 o'clock without distortion is being kind - there is some. It just isn't that bad. My first assertion of 12 o'clock is probably about right, really, when it boils down to it.

    I would say there's a tech challenge there Alan. Maybe there's a market for hotroded Xiangs...
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    Ye gods - it costs a £ton.
    Forget the pre-amp section and use it as a (imho) world class DAC with a pretty decent headphone amp thrown in gratis.
    Jerry

    Qobuz Hifi / Spotify Premium streaming, XiangSheng DAC-01A or Topping D30 DAC with lpsu, Herron VTSP-2 valve preamp, Trigon TRE 50M monoblocks, MBL 116F speakers.

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    Yup, haven't tried to use the preamp section , nor the headphone output either yet . I bought the XS primarily as a DAC and I'm really very pleased with it . The valve output ( with a decent valve in it ) is exceptional
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    Going on the string title.... try this for interest?
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    http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/cotg/1.html
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    Takes QUITE a leap to be able to move from Apogees to a stand-mount speaker!
    But I found Zigmahornets (3 inch unit!) persuaded me to move from Avantgarde Duos.
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    Er... I have some M&Ds.

    To swap from top flight Duettas (I suspect his nowhere near as good as mine) is insanity. The M&Ds are mere toys in comparison.
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    Going from large to little can work surprisingly well.
    I owned Quad 63 stats for 7 years (this was before I quit work and had time for box swapping) - and then the diminutive Proac Response 2 standmount came along and sonically demolished the Quads in every way.

    It's a bit different for the 6 moons guy, but I guess if you aren't much bothered by the bass power ability of the big Apogees, then going to a smaller ribbon hybrid might well work, especially if they are a better fit for the room dimensions.
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    Agree, Jerry. Plus-maybe a BIG plus? - is that a lot of folk don't have space to have wires strewn about, huge ('ugly'!!!) speakers, multiple black/silver boxes, etc., because they need to consider their partner's understandable concerns. Thee and me are OK!
    Funny how a big black screen on the wall is OK though, generally!

    Sit back and await the 'handbags/shoes' comments? (-:
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    Not a 63 fan myself. I'd much rather have the ProAcs or a pair of 57s.

    There's no accounting for anything in this hobby. My previous post was just an opinion, and I am totally biased anyway, but well qualified to state an opinion in that particular case.
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