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    Sorry Jerry - now realise that came over far more forcefully than I intended (emphasis removed in offending post) and I apologise. I'm not out to pick an argument.

    I just feel that the less emphasis placed on genres the better - there are only two sorts of music: good music and bad music (of course I like all the good stuff ) be it 'Classical' (whatever that is), Jazz (likewise) or anything else.

    I'd hate to see the Musical Compositions forum here segmented into dozens of ever more specialist and elitist sub-fora.

    Lets get the masses listening to music outside their normal choices - and the best way to do that is to discuss it all out in the open.

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    Damn it - you're being too reasonable now. How can I take the moral high ground and win the argument by default?

    ... yes, I agree with what you say.

    But ... I would still like a separate section for classical music. Sorry.

    ... why did MartinT think it a good idea?
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    Dawn's a bit early for me. Could we make it around 11:30ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    ... why did MartinT think it a good idea?
    Sometimes, like you Jerry, I feel that I'm posting about classical records and music to a very small audience, the remainder of whom couldn't care less. Rather than get lost in the mass of modern music (which I also post into), it would be good to have a classical section in which we could enthuse a little more without boring the pants off people.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with keiths that good music is good music. I also switch back and forth between modern and classical as my mood takes me.

    However, the Great Classical Recordings thread has shown that people do come out from under the floorboards when given a more specific place in which to discuss their passion for classical music. It is this, more than anything, that tells me it's a good idea.

    I'd like to hear Barry and BTH K10A's views on it, too.

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    I'm mostly vociferously against putting music into genre boxes, but I agree that there's merit in having somewhere discrete for the discussions about classical/orchestral music. Apart from anything else, it's a good way of exposing it to folks who are interested in dipping their toes in the water, if we can point them to one single source of info.

    Here's an idea - in addition to the above, how about a collaborative effort to produce an AoS Library piece listing some 'must hear' recordings that go a little beyond the usual Four Seasons/Planets/Messiah type stuff?

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    I'm up for that, as long as it's described a little so that we have an idea of what the piece may be like, otherwise it'll fill up with all our random preferences and lookers-in will still have no idea.

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    I'm sure YouTube covers classical as well, so while not conveying the scale and majesty of an orchestra at full tilt, it might hint at what you're on about
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Sometimes, like you Jerry, I feel that I'm posting about classical records and music to a very small audience, the remainder of whom couldn't care less. Rather than get lost in the mass of modern music (which I also post into), it would be good to have a classical section in which we could enthuse a little more without boring the pants off people.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with keiths that good music is good music. I also switch back and forth between modern and classical as my mood takes me.

    However, the Great Classical Recordings thread has shown that people do come out from under the floorboards when given a more specific place in which to discuss their passion for classical music. It is this, more than anything, that tells me it's a good idea.

    I'd like to hear Barry and BTH K10A's views on it, too.
    Hi Jerry,

    Just spotted this thread and have to confess that I do intend to contribute to the Great Classical Recordings thread, but haven't had the time so far.

    In principle, I'm with Chris (TGW) in the sense that it's the thin edge of the wedge - why not a separate section for any other musical genre: R 'n' B; Folk; Jazz; "World" (a stupid enough classification - all music is world music) etc.?

    But - Classical music is a little different. The recordings are not made by the original composer/performer (well, with the exception of a few by Elgar, Stravinski and Gershwin. There may be some others.). In all cases the recordings are intepretations of the scores left by the composers. That is why many of us will have several versions of one particular piece. I'm still looking for my definitive version of the Beethoven 9!
    It is also the reason why, when posting on the "Spinning Today" thread I go to the trouble of listing soloists, orchestras, conductors and give the recording date and number.

    There is of course a danger that such a dedicated section, wherein details of interpretation are chewed (maybe even argued) over, would put off those noviciates who want to dip their toe into the Classical waters. It need not, but there is that risk.

    We do seem to be in the minority and whilst "Spinning Today" is the first thread I visit when logged on, I rarely read of members spinning classical music.

    So why don't we give it a go and see how it progresses? If after say, six months, it has been seen that apart from the 'usual suspects', there are few posts from others - or there is poor feedback/criticism from non-classicists, then the section is folded up and all those posts (retrospectively) transferred into the main "Spinning Today" thread.

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    I really like the idea and agree with Martin and Barry. We are a small minority, but I enjoy reading about the classical music people are spinning. I tend to go through phases and at times play nothing but classical for a few days, but rarely post them in the spinning thread, because of the reasons outlined already. I have bought a few discs after reading recommendations from M & B, so I certainly appreciate the additions to "Spinning Today".

    I'm playing a little less than normal lately, as I have just sold my CDP and have yet to rip my entire classical collection, so it's a handicap at the moment, but soon to be remedied. A classical section may give me the kick up the butt I need to sort it out - it was quite a palaver playing the Elgar recently, compared to my normal few mouse clicks for everything else
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