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    Regarding the 'Mullard 10M Master Series 12AX7', I've just received this feedback from my regular NOS valve supplier in the States:

    Actually Mullard 10M tubes are totally overrated. Basically these were regular ECC83 tubes that were made for longer life and tested at the factory. You may get similar results to these from late 1950s Regular Mullards...
    Well, that's that one crossed off the list!

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Darkness View Post
    How about this?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...36da46ffecf88d

    I imagine Mullard would use the American designations for valves exported to the U.S.
    Hard to tell from a pic, that looks like a long plate?

    If I could find my stash I'd let you know, they are all pulls from vintage equipment.

    Edit:
    Doah, heading says it's a long plate
    Note to self: "Read description before putting boot in mouth !!"
    Last edited by Slatedeck; 14-10-2008 at 16:23.

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    Views on Mullard M8137s, Darren?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Views on Mullard M8137s, Darren?

    Marco.
    Never had one to try Marco,

    Currently in my pre are two Blue printed Mazda's and two Mullards,

    Perhaps if we meet up I can lend you a few to try?
    Last edited by Slatedeck; 14-10-2008 at 16:37.

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    Sounds good to me

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    All this talk of valves,

    I moved here just over a year ago and still my main amp still in pieces here and there. Bout time it sang again.

    The PX4's are ok but, but, but, I want "MORE SHOUT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Guys,

    What's your view of the Mullard M8137?
    AKA - CV4004. You've tried one! The standard ECC83 is CV492 (I think)

    The M8137 (or CV4004 in army speak) is an 'SQ' version (or 'reliable valve') of the ECC83, I have an article from the 50's covering this. I'll forward a photo-copy.... SQ = Special Quality.

    Marco... We've been through this before ya big daft muppet!!!
    Last edited by Mike; 14-10-2008 at 17:55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shian7 View Post
    AKA - CV4004. You've tried one! The standard ECC83 is CV492 (I think)
    Oooh, is the Cv4004 the same as M8137 then, can we confirm this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatedeck View Post
    Oooh, is the Cv4004 the same as M8137 then, can we confirm this?

    Yes!
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    In that case I have some and not tried them as yet.

    Now then, where....are they

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